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T/A hood engineering diagram #2691451 08/26/19 06:53 AM 08/26/19 06:53 AM
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 661 Virginia V varunner OP mopar
varunner OP mopar V Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 661 Virginia	Does anyone have a factory sketch showing the T/A hood assembly ? I'm looking to document that this hood did not come with a hood latch or safety ketch. NHRA is reminding racers that hoods need a hood latch. thanks

Re: T/A hood engineering diagram [Re: varunner] #2691530 08/26/19 11:48 AM 08/26/19 11:48 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,894 Florida Locomotion master
Locomotion master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,894 Florida	Maybe you can find something by searching through this, or contacting the person who posted it. He does mention that the T/A hood had no latches and requires pins in Reply #6 on: January 23, 2017, 02:49:09 AM . But you'd have to ask if there is any factory documentation available outlining that. Challenger T/A info Last edited by Locomotion; 08/26/19 11:54 AM.

Re: T/A hood engineering diagram [Re: Locomotion] #2691572 08/26/19 01:31 PM 08/26/19 01:31 PM
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 661 Virginia V varunner OP mopar
varunner OP mopar V Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 661 Virginia	Thank you. Lots of info on that site. This should lead me to the document I want Cheers

Re: T/A hood engineering diagram [Re: varunner] #2691592 08/26/19 02:44 PM 08/26/19 02:44 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 29,652 Hamtramck, PA A Alaskan_TA Fluffy Balladeer
Alaskan_TA Fluffy Balladeer A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 29,652 Hamtramck, PA	Hood pins only. No place to mount a latch on the hoods & no need for the pop-up springs either.

Re: T/A hood engineering diagram [Re: Alaskan_TA] #2691632 08/26/19 04:25 PM 08/26/19 04:25 PM
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Locomotion master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,894 Florida	Originally Posted by Alaskan_TA Hood pins only. No place to mount a latch on the hoods & no need for the pop-up springs either. NHRA requires verifiable documentation if there is any variations that may conflict with their existing rules. They have been known to make exceptions, but being prepared, just in case, like in court, is prudent. Otherwise, it can hurt your wallet and reputation if they decide to enforce and/or "interpret" a particular rule against you.

Re: T/A hood engineering diagram [Re: Locomotion] #2691698 08/26/19 08:29 PM 08/26/19 08:29 PM
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 661 Virginia V varunner OP mopar
varunner OP mopar V Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 661 Virginia	I have a 70 challenger in nhra stock. This is what got my attention and need documentation. nhra statement on hood latch

Re: T/A hood engineering diagram [Re: varunner] #2691705 08/26/19 08:40 PM 08/26/19 08:40 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 29,652 Hamtramck, PA A Alaskan_TA Fluffy Balladeer
Alaskan_TA Fluffy Balladeer A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 29,652 Hamtramck, PA	Quote Question: Can I remove the hood latch and use hood pins on my Stock / Super Stock entry? Answer: Per the 2019 NHRA Rulebook sections 11A and 12A pages 11 and 9 under Body:7 Hood it reads "Full stock hood including latches, hinges, springs, brackets, and braces as originally produced must be retained." With that said you may add hood pins, in addition to the original latch. He asked if he could remove it. No latch to remove on T/As (or AARs) so you should be good to go.

Re: T/A hood engineering diagram [Re: Alaskan_TA] #2691708 08/26/19 08:46 PM 08/26/19 08:46 PM
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 661 Virginia V varunner OP mopar
varunner OP mopar V Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 661 Virginia	Alaskan T/A, I may have to prove, via oem documentation, that the T/A hood did not have a latch or safety catch. Referencing a social media post is not going to cut it, at least if it I was the one hearing that response. Appreciate the info though.

Re: T/A hood engineering diagram [Re: varunner] #2691711 08/26/19 08:53 PM 08/26/19 08:53 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 29,652 Hamtramck, PA A Alaskan_TA Fluffy Balladeer
Alaskan_TA Fluffy Balladeer A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 29,652 Hamtramck, PA	Well, next July at Carlisle is the 50 Year Reunion for the AARS & T/As so come take photos of every original cars hood & latch area. You will not go home with any photos of an original latch or catch on any of them though..........

Re: T/A hood engineering diagram [Re: Alaskan_TA] #2691843 08/27/19 08:17 AM 08/27/19 08:17 AM
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 661 Virginia V varunner OP mopar
varunner OP mopar V Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 661 Virginia	A few good pictures might not hurt to have, as I'm not having to convince a mopar fan what is legit. If I feel like sweating and having a couple of yingling, I might just do that !

Re: T/A hood engineering diagram [Re: varunner] #2691877 08/27/19 10:30 AM 08/27/19 10:30 AM
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TC@HP2 master T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,394 Pikes Peak Country	Given this car has been out of production and used in racing for the past 49 years, I'm amazed someone in NHRA doesn't already have the exception for this in place.

Re: T/A hood engineering diagram [Re: TC@HP2] #2691930 08/27/19 01:06 PM 08/27/19 01:06 PM
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 661 Virginia V varunner OP mopar
varunner OP mopar V Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 661 Virginia	They very well might, but wouldn't count on it. NHRA has a ton of stuff to keep up with, or should keep up with and records on hood latches ain't at the top of the list.. I'd just like to have documentation to deal with it if it comes up. So far I haven't found anything in B/W

Re: T/A hood engineering diagram [Re: varunner] #2691955 08/27/19 01:56 PM 08/27/19 01:56 PM
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Mopar Mitch pro stock Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,442 NW Chicago suburban area	You won't find anything in black-white... the T/A hood ONLY uses hood pins... period... and the NHRA knows that... they've had plenty of other T/A hood cars run their past events for decades... same for the AAR Cuda hood. Mopar Mitch "Road racers and autocrossers go in deeper and come out harder!"... and rain never stops us from having fun with our cars... in fact, it makes us better drivers! Check out MOPAR ACTION MAGAZINE, August 2006 issue for feature article and specs on my autocross T/A!

Re: T/A hood engineering diagram [Re: Mopar Mitch] #2692002 08/27/19 04:32 PM 08/27/19 04:32 PM
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 661 Virginia V varunner OP mopar
varunner OP mopar V Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 661 Virginia	If NHRA hadn't recently made a statement about just using hood pins, I've wouldn't have wasted my time posting here.

Re: T/A hood engineering diagram [Re: varunner] #2692044 08/27/19 07:39 PM 08/27/19 07:39 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,115 MD floyd master
floyd master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,115 MD	Come to think of it, it seems pretty odd that there wasn’t an engineering drawing for both the AAR and T/A hood set ups...

Re: T/A hood engineering diagram [Re: varunner] #2692249 08/28/19 11:14 AM 08/28/19 11:14 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually B BradH Taking time off to work on my car
BradH Taking time off to work on my car B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually	Originally Posted by varunner Thank you. Lots of info on that site. This should lead me to the document I want Cheers Might find something of note here, too. NO mention of latch on 'glass hood, only the factory-installed hood pins, FWIW... http://hamtramck-historical.com/1970_TA_Challenger_Ordering.shtml https://www.e-bodies.org/resources/...70-dodge-challenger-ta-review-road-test/ EDIT: I should add that my hood is an older ASC&P T/A replica, which was considered one of the better reproductions at that time, and there is no provision for a latch mechanism. Last edited by BradH; 08/29/19 08:46 AM.

Re: T/A hood engineering diagram [Re: BradH] #2692382 08/28/19 07:08 PM 08/28/19 07:08 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,179 Park Forest, IL slantzilla Too Many Posts
slantzilla Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,179 Park Forest, IL	After the crusade to get that hood legal for non-T/A cars in Stock, I would think the NHRA has every piece of information there is. "Everybody funny, now you funny too."

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