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Performer deep runner porting #2424744
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I need to deep port match the runners on a edelbrock performer 318/360 Intake to match the larger ports on my heads

How deep is deep and what tooling would you recommend ?


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Re: Performer deep runner porting [Re: NTOLERANCE] #2424746
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You can buy 6" long rotary bits for cutting
alum or steel.. I also have 12" long arbor
when using tooste rolls for porting... all
are used with either a air or electric.. I
use both a lot of times... all 1/4" shanks
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Re: Performer deep runner porting [Re: NTOLERANCE] #2424762
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$15 a pop on ebay, 6 inch long for die grinder. If you always do al. you will never wear them out. They work good on cast too but will get to a dull point.

They also sell sets with 2 long and 4 short

But one point, one round is all you need. Really either one would do it in a pinch.


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Re: Performer deep runner porting [Re: NTOLERANCE] #2424789
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When doing aluminum, be careful about loading up the bits and not cleaning them out with a scribe. I have a 5K rpm air drill that I use for most roughing in with the carbide cutters, I found that the 20K die grinders took off too much material too fast, and they liked to bounce around too much. A little slower = a little more control. The die grinders work good with the sanding rolls though. Tim


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Re: Performer deep runner porting [Re: NTOLERANCE] #2424812
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Keep dipping the cutter in WD-40 will really help keep the aluminum from building up in the flutes.


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Re: Performer deep runner porting [Re: an8sec70cuda] #2424817
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Awhile back there was a comprehensive thread here on the different types/uses for porting burrs (for faster work/longer life). If my printer was up I wanted to print it out.


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Re: Performer deep runner porting [Re: RapidRobert] #2424879
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Re: Performer deep runner porting [Re: NTOLERANCE] #2424892
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Have a good port matched gasket to the heads
and make sure the bolt holes line up well.. then
transfer that to the intake.. blend it in as far
as possible
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Re: Performer deep runner porting [Re: NTOLERANCE] #2424943
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All the good aluminum cutters have a lot bigger cutter edges on them and are further a lot further apart than the one shown in that picture. Those type are for steel, iron and other harder metals than aluminum scope
As far as keeping the aluminum from sticking to the bits using candle wax or parafin to coat them frequently helps a lot thumbs I roll the bit in it by hand before starting and again as needed scope


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Re: Performer deep runner porting [Re: NTOLERANCE] #2424957
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All the good aluminum cutters have a lot bigger cutter edges on them and are further a lot further apart than the one shown in that picture.

Tell that to the 30 plus manifolds ive worked on and 11 sets of al heads and 8 sets of iron heads.

Just a personal preference that dont dig supper hard and leave a good finish without needing any touch up of any kind. Maybe one time an hour I might have to take 5 seconds on a fine wire brush or hit them with an air hose.

I know your old and wise Cab but there is more then one way to skin a cat.

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I rarely use the wider aluminum burrs either. I use a mixture of WD40 and transmission fluid and port at a slower speed than a lot of guys do as I do it for recreation and not money. My Foredom grinder has a foot pedal to control the speed and with using the finer tooth (cast iron burrs) I usually don't even need a sanding roll job after I am finished.


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Re: Performer deep runner porting [Re: an8sec70cuda] #2424961
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Originally Posted By an8sec70cuda
Keep dipping the cutter in WD-40 will really help keep the aluminum from building up in the flutes.


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Re: Performer deep runner porting [Re: pittsburghracer] #2424964
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Re: Performer deep runner porting [Re: NTOLERANCE] #2424969
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John you turned me on to the idea of the $20 router speed control from HF for my electric. works like a champ! Able to control the bounce and the aggressiveness with the speed.


It may be ugly, but it sure is slow.

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Re: Performer deep runner porting [Re: poboyengineering] #2424971
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Originally Posted By poboyengineering
John you turned me on to the idea of the $20 router speed control from HF for my electric. works like a champ! Able to control the bounce and the aggressiveness with the speed.




They work great but if you want to go the next step buy a foot pedal off ebay and really enjoy variable speed.


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Re: Performer deep runner porting [Re: NTOLERANCE] #2424975
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I'll look into that once it's warm enough to get back to the shop! Cutter bounce is nothing compared to shivering.


It may be ugly, but it sure is slow.

Girls comb their hair in rear view mirrors and the boys try to look so hard....
Re: Performer deep runner porting [Re: poboyengineering] #2424982
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Originally Posted By poboyengineering
I'll look into that once it's warm enough to get back to the shop! Cutter bounce is nothing compared to shivering.

LOL Now that is funny.
The shivering gets worse as I get older too.


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Straight low budget here... my $8 pawn shop die grinder and I think my cutters actually came from harbor freight, maybe fifteen years ago, but they work good still.

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Re: Performer deep runner porting [Re: SCATPACK 1] #2425017
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Originally Posted By SCATPACK 1
Originally Posted By poboyengineering
I'll look into that once it's warm enough to get back to the shop! Cutter bounce is nothing compared to shivering.

LOL Now that is funny.
The shivering gets worse as I get older too.


LOL.. you got that right.. thats why I built a new shop
that has in floor heating.. love it.. I work in a tee shirt
all winter(today started out at -9*)
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