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Modified oil pump failure #2282446 04/04/17 08:57 PM 04/04/17 08:57 PM
Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 3,036 bean town ....Ca W WHITEDART OP master
WHITEDART OP master W Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 3,036 bean town ....Ca	This weekend did not end up so good.. although I guess we could say it could have been worse.. the Car slow down almost for tenths on its last pass.. after picking up my losing time slip.. re fired the motor and noticed it didn't have any oil pressure.. and the starter really struggled to start it... I got it home.. remove the oil pump and found the oil pump Lane in the oil pan In the 8s N/A.with Brett miller W8's 5.07 at 133 at 2700lb

Re: Modified oil pump failure [Re: WHITEDART] #2282452 04/04/17 09:08 PM 04/04/17 09:08 PM
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WHITEDART OP master W Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 3,036 bean town ....Ca	One more In the 8s N/A.with Brett miller W8's 5.07 at 133 at 2700lb

Re: Modified oil pump failure [Re: WHITEDART] #2282456 04/04/17 09:12 PM 04/04/17 09:12 PM
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WHITEDART OP master W Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 3,036 bean town ....Ca	The two main caps that I have removed look perfect bearings are beautiful... five of the rods bearings are in great shape.. three of the rod bearings were to The Copper. And two of the rod caps show signs of heat... In the 8s N/A.with Brett miller W8's 5.07 at 133 at 2700lb

Re: Modified oil pump failure [Re: WHITEDART] #2282463 04/04/17 09:18 PM 04/04/17 09:18 PM
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greendart408 super stock G Joined: May 2006 Posts: 1,073 oregon	Sorry about your misfortune, came out from it ok by the looks of it considering. Was the pump bottomed on that stud? Or just flat break in half for zero reason?

Re: Modified oil pump failure [Re: WHITEDART] #2282465 04/04/17 09:24 PM 04/04/17 09:24 PM
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onig enthusiast Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 361 Canada	Do you know why it broke? Was the pick up tube under stress and caused the casting to break off? 69 Dart

Re: Modified oil pump failure [Re: WHITEDART] #2282475 04/04/17 09:44 PM 04/04/17 09:44 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,557 New Smyrna Beach FL S scottb pro stock
scottb pro stock S Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,557 New Smyrna Beach FL	Sounds like you caught it just in time except for a couple rods and cleaning up the crank what kind of rods are you using

Re: Modified oil pump failure [Re: scottb] #2282481 04/04/17 09:54 PM 04/04/17 09:54 PM
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WHITEDART OP master W Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 3,036 bean town ....Ca	Oliver rods and a king crank..there was no interference between the main cap and the oil pump... however the pump passage was greatly increased in size... In the 8s N/A.with Brett miller W8's 5.07 at 133 at 2700lb

Re: Modified oil pump failure [Re: WHITEDART] #2282514 04/04/17 10:38 PM 04/04/17 10:38 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 402 Dillsburg, PA M mrsmallblock mopar
mrsmallblock mopar M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 402 Dillsburg, PA	That is a shame but could have been worse. What are the specs on the Oliver rods? Howard

Re: Modified oil pump failure [Re: mrsmallblock] #2282520 04/04/17 10:48 PM 04/04/17 10:48 PM
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pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,169 PA.	Sorry to see this but I'm glad you caught before things turned ugly 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: Modified oil pump failure [Re: WHITEDART] #2282532 04/04/17 10:56 PM 04/04/17 10:56 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Whats your peak oil pressure

Re: Modified oil pump failure [Re: WHITEDART] #2282537 04/04/17 11:03 PM 04/04/17 11:03 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 22,696 Bitopia J jcc If you can't dazzle em with diamonds..
jcc If you can't dazzle em with diamonds.. J Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 22,696 Bitopia	Not sure if this is the exact same problem, regardless worth checking whenever in the area, look at Pic #19 https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/ubbt...tml#Post1554264 IMO on further review, the enlarged oil passage likely was the initiator of this failure, by weakening the lower oil pump support structure. edit #2 and the oil pan crushing wheel stand. Last edited by jcc; 04/04/17 11:34 PM. Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.

Re: Modified oil pump failure [Re: mrsmallblock] #2282546 04/04/17 11:13 PM 04/04/17 11:13 PM
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WHITEDART OP master W Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 3,036 bean town ....Ca	Originally Posted By mrsmallblock That is a shame but could have been worse. What are the specs on the Oliver rods? Howard 6.250 long. 9.27 2.100 In the 8s N/A.with Brett miller W8's 5.07 at 133 at 2700lb

Re: Modified oil pump failure [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2282550 04/04/17 11:17 PM 04/04/17 11:17 PM
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WHITEDART OP master W Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 3,036 bean town ....Ca	Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY Whats your peak oil pressure 80lb at 8800 In the 8s N/A.with Brett miller W8's 5.07 at 133 at 2700lb

Re: Modified oil pump failure [Re: WHITEDART] #2282552 04/04/17 11:18 PM 04/04/17 11:18 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 402 Dillsburg, PA M mrsmallblock mopar
mrsmallblock mopar M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 402 Dillsburg, PA	Okay. Thought i might be able to help you. I have 6 6.125x2.00x.927. Howard

Re: Modified oil pump failure [Re: WHITEDART] #2282557 04/04/17 11:23 PM 04/04/17 11:23 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio S Sport440 master
Sport440 master S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio	Sorry it happened , but boy were you lucky. You were darn near tossing a rod out the side of the block

Re: Modified oil pump failure [Re: WHITEDART] #2282561 04/04/17 11:29 PM 04/04/17 11:29 PM
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WHITEDART OP master W Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 3,036 bean town ....Ca	When the motor first went into the car 200 passes ago it did a wheel stand and came down and crushed the oil pan. and hit the pick up.. pretty good.. after a very close inspection I chose to reuse the pump.. and actually shorten the pick up slightly.. so it wouldn't hit the pump.. if it happened again...that was 200 passes ago In the 8s N/A.with Brett miller W8's 5.07 at 133 at 2700lb

Re: Modified oil pump failure [Re: WHITEDART] #2282563 04/04/17 11:30 PM 04/04/17 11:30 PM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,175 Duloc T The Shadow top fuel
The Shadow top fuel T Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,175 Duloc	Sure looks like the stud was hitting the pump but maybe Im seeing it wrong

Re: Modified oil pump failure [Re: WHITEDART] #2282568 04/04/17 11:39 PM 04/04/17 11:39 PM
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MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	2 things.. whats the weight oil and what is the minimum rpm you see 80#

Re: Modified oil pump failure [Re: WHITEDART] #2282584 04/05/17 12:06 AM 04/05/17 12:06 AM
Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,407 Ambridge, Pa. R rickraw top fuel
rickraw top fuel R Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,407 Ambridge, Pa.	Shiloh, maybe when the pan got crushed it may have fractured the pump & it finally broke off.

Re: Modified oil pump failure [Re: WHITEDART] #2282587 04/05/17 12:17 AM 04/05/17 12:17 AM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Looking at it again.. you came down on the pan and broke it

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