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Re: Cubic inches and boost [Re: hudsonhornet7x] #2204880
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Either Holley Dominator or EFI source Hellcat system

Re: Cubic inches and boost [Re: hudsonhornet7x] #2204882
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You should have no issues with the Holley, I have no experience with the other so can't comment.

Nice build

Re: Cubic inches and boost [Re: hudsonhornet7x] #2204884
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Thanks. Piece by piece brother! The MS3 system is not out yet but it is being worked on.

Re: Cubic inches and boost [Re: hudsonhornet7x] #2204892
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I helped put a MS on a turbo Miata, was impressed with it. I run FAST on my Turbo car and N/A Valiant. My Challenger is stock computer with Diablo Predator and not impressed at all with that setup

Re: Cubic inches and boost [Re: hudsonhornet7x] #2204904
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Cool cars! I will probably go with the MS3 as long as the price is right, which it more than likely will be. This will be my forst step into fuel injection.

Re: Cubic inches and boost [Re: hudsonhornet7x] #2204912
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Hope I helped a little.
The Challenger is for sale. I got bored with it and don't want to take the drive ability out of it with a,stroker and such. The wife can get in it now and drive it to the grocery store lol.

I like your build, your going to have a fun ride. Is this motor going in the Hornet?

Re: Cubic inches and boost [Re: FastmOp] #2204922
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Originally Posted By FastmOp
That's a Magnuson style, I need to ask what fuel and what's the designated intent. If it's pump gas and mostly street you should be fine.

My turbo big block is 12 to 1 but it's race gas. C-16. It has no detonation at 30PSI


NOT a Magnuson style...The factory supercharger and the Magnuson are completely different from a design perspective. Magnuson uses roots style rotors from Eaton (same as an Edelbrock supercharger) and is far less efficient than the IHI screw compressor that comes factory.


knyech1- '71 Sassy Grass Demon 340/904. Pump gas, 1.61 60ft, 7.439 1/8 @ 95mph, 11.824 1/4 @ 111mph "Not too bad for a pump gas 340, full of used parts and hillbilly ported stock heads." - V.B. '03 2500 5.9L HO 6-spd on 35's. 395hp/755ft-lb at tires.
Re: Cubic inches and boost [Re: hudsonhornet7x] #2204928
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Why aren't you going with a factory longblock?? There are guys running a nitrous plate setup just aft of the throttle body with a smaller pulley and Diablo tuner running 9's in a factory weighted (~4500#) hellcat! You don't really need any more stroke; just add boost. The factory stuff is pretty dang stout and for the price of a longblock, you might be wasting money going a different route.


knyech1- '71 Sassy Grass Demon 340/904. Pump gas, 1.61 60ft, 7.439 1/8 @ 95mph, 11.824 1/4 @ 111mph "Not too bad for a pump gas 340, full of used parts and hillbilly ported stock heads." - V.B. '03 2500 5.9L HO 6-spd on 35's. 395hp/755ft-lb at tires.
Re: Cubic inches and boost [Re: FastmOp] #2204939
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Originally Posted By FastmOp
Hope I helped a little.
The Challenger is for sale. I got bored with it and don't want to take the drive ability out of it with a,stroker and such. The wife can get in it now and drive it to the grocery store lol.

I like your build, your going to have a fun ride. Is this motor going in the Hornet?



You did, Thanks a lot! The car is a 68 Charger. Pure twin h power for the Hudson!

Re: Cubic inches and boost [Re: knyech1] #2204943
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Originally Posted By knyech1
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Why aren't you going with a factory longblock?? There are guys running a nitrous plate setup just aft of the throttle body with a smaller pulley and Diablo tuner running 9's in a factory weighted (~4500#) hellcat! You don't really need any more stroke; just add boost. The factory stuff is pretty dang stout and for the price of a longblock, you might be wasting money going a different route.



I bought a bare block before the short blocks were available. I also have a bunch of different Gen III internal parts and figure I could get something to work.

Here is what I have:

New factory 6.4 crank

New Factory Hellcat rods and Pistons

Manley 300m 6.125 2" journal connecting rods

Manley 4.09 bore platinum series pistons

Good stuff but it's kind of like legos that don't match lol.

Figure whatever way I go I will have to buy something.

Re: Cubic inches and boost [Re: hudsonhornet7x] #2204976
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I think with the Manley pistons and rods you already have, might as well go with the Manley 4.05 crank. Dont know your comp height on the pistons but if they're the 1.09" that combo will work to but compression will be higher.


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Re: Cubic inches and boost [Re: hudsonhornet7x] #2204983
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Compression height is 1.206

Re: Cubic inches and boost [Re: hudsonhornet7x] #2204992
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Ok, sell what you have except for the pistons and do the 398" deal with the 6.20 rods. Would be a killer,solid combo. That is exactly what I would build, except my broke a$$ would be using a 5.7 block.


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Re: Cubic inches and boost [Re: hudsonhornet7x] #2205005
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I have been thinking the same thing. Anyone know if the manley pistons are good enough quality for boost?

Re: Cubic inches and boost [Re: hudsonhornet7x] #2205165
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My son is getting ready to start his 6.1 build. It will be boosted not sure if spray or turbo but leaning more turbo. FI w/Megasquirt. What do you think the power limits are with the stock crank using aftermarket rods and pistons? thx matt


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Re: Cubic inches and boost [Re: hudsonhornet7x] #2205179
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From what I have read, srt cranks are good to 1000hp. The factory oiling is what does them in at high rpm.

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Re: Cubic inches and boost [Re: hudsonhornet7x] #2205196
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Originally Posted By hudsonhornet7x
From what I have read, srt cranks are good to 1000hp. The factory oiling is what does them in at high rpm.


Is this correctable or is it inherent?


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Re: Cubic inches and boost [Re: hudsonhornet7x] #2205215
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I believe it is a cross drilled crank, better off to get a Molnar crankshaft if you are going to turn it up high.

Re: Cubic inches and boost [Re: hudsonhornet7x] #2205314
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6500 RPM would be my limit on a stock crank.

Re: Cubic inches and boost [Re: FastmOp] #2205330
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Anyone ever try plugging the cross drilled hole?

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