Oh Man!!! What a Can of Worms
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Been doing some updates on my cooling system. Finished everything up and topped off the coolant, took it for a drive. Well, I just found out that I have other cooling issues. Apparently the freeze plugs on the passenger side are leaking. With the system nut under pressure it doesn't seem so bad but put the rad cap on (16psi) and all three leak like a sieve. I haven't checked the driver side yet.
Being a big block Dart the motor will have to come out. What bothers me is that this is a fresh motor, probably no more than 2500 miles driven on it. Guess I won't know the cause of the freeze plug leaks until I get the motor out.
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Re: Oh Man!!! What a Can of Worms
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Put brass freeze plugs in it...... You won't have to deal with this issue again.
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Re: Oh Man!!! What a Can of Worms
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Use Permatex #1 the thick viscous gasket cement in the toothpaste like tube and get freeze plugs that are wide. clean the perimeter well
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Re: Oh Man!!! What a Can of Worms
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I think most core plugs (freeze plugs if you want) are available in shallow and wide. The shallow ones are just asking for trouble in my experience. And brass is probably a good idea along with some non-hardening Permatex.
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Re: Oh Man!!! What a Can of Worms
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Are they leaking between the plug and block or are the rusted through from the back side? I'd support the motor and drop the K-frame before I pulled the motor. Doug I think I could pull an engine faster than dropping a k-member
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Re: Oh Man!!! What a Can of Worms
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Do yourself a favor and replace ALL of them while it is out. I also like to remove the block drain plugs and install petcocks so future draining of the block is easier.
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Re: Oh Man!!! What a Can of Worms
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Put brass freeze plugs in it...... You won't have to deal with this issue again. They were brass
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Re: Oh Man!!! What a Can of Worms
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Are they leaking between the plug and block or are the rusted through from the back side? I'd support the motor and drop the K-frame before I pulled the motor. Doug I think I could pull an engine faster than dropping a k-member I'm kinda debating that in my own mind. Problem is it's a big block Dart. Not much room under there.
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Re: Oh Man!!! What a Can of Worms
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Do yourself a favor and replace ALL of them while it is out. I also like to remove the block drain plugs and install petcocks so future draining of the block is easier. Yeah, no reason to take a chance on the driver side
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Are they leaking between the plug and block or are the rusted through from the back side? Doug Leaking between the plug and the block
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Were they dry on install? A few here will know better than me but I have always used the Indian Head Shellac on soft plugs...brass or steel... Don't be afraid to just pull the K frame...I think its actually easier...
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Re: Oh Man!!! What a Can of Worms
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Mix up some alumaseal in a cup with some water, pour the mixture in there and drive it for the rest of the winter. Drop the motor out from the bottom in the spring and replace all those plugs.
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I was planning a trip up to WA state next month. May load it up and take it with me. I'll have a hoist where we can drop everything out the bottom.
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I'm available to lend a hand if you decide to tackle it. Hey, thanks for the offer. I was under the car this afternoon. The only plug assessable is the center. The rear plug is blocked by the exhaust manifold. The front plug is blocked by the motor mount.
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