NAG1 into an A body??
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Just like it says. Will a NAG1 out of an 06 Charger fit the trans tunnel of an A-body?? Just figured if it did it would be nice to have an overdrive with the 3.91 gears. Thanks!!
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Re: NAG1 into an A body??
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I have a complete 06 Charger 5.7 that I will take everything from. So it'll have the Hemi/NAG1 with the factory computer.
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Re: NAG1 into an A body??
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No first hand experience but won't the computer be looking for dozens of other inputs besides the engine and trans causing all kinds of mysterious errors?
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Re: NAG1 into an A body??
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Maybe, what else would it be looking for??
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Re: NAG1 into an A body??
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Maybe, what else would it be looking for?? That you ought to find out before you spend nickle one on this swap. It's a ton of stuff. https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/ubbt...found-this.html
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Re: NAG1 into an A body??
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Will a NAG1 out of an 06 Charger fit the trans tunnel of an A-body?? No. The NAG1 is gigantic compared to a rinky dink 904 or 727. The only automatic overdrives that I'm aware of that'll fit under your tunnel without chopping the torsion bar crossmember and/or the tunnel will be the GM 200-4R or 700-R4.
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Re: NAG1 into an A body??
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Will a NAG1 out of an 06 Charger fit the trans tunnel of an A-body?? No. The NAG1 is gigantic compared to a rinky dink 904 or 727. The only automatic overdrives that I'm aware of that'll fit under your tunnel without chopping the torsion bar crossmember and/or the tunnel will be the GM 200-4R or 700-R4. This was my main concern. If it won't physically fit, I won't be putting it in. I guess I will use a 727.
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Re: NAG1 into an A body??
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Will a NAG1 out of an 06 Charger fit the trans tunnel of an A-body?? No. The NAG1 is gigantic compared to a rinky dink 904 or 727. The only automatic overdrives that I'm aware of that'll fit under your tunnel without chopping the torsion bar crossmember and/or the tunnel will be the GM 200-4R or 700-R4. This was my main concern. If it won't physically fit, I won't be putting it in. I guess I will use a 727. Why not just cut the tunnel and make it fit ?
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Re: NAG1 into an A body??
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So, does anyone make a replacement K-member that uses coilovers for the A body?
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Or you could cut off the front clip, lay down new frame rails and do a complete mustang ii type front suspension. I bet you'd shed a few pounds. PATC gives the complete instructions on how to make a three wire A518od trans work in place of a 727.It is a good swap. He doesn't want to cut and the 518 won't fit under a stock torsion bar crossmember.
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Re: NAG1 into an A body??
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I used the AlterKtion setup in mine. I ordered it without the motor mounts welded in, so I could position the drivetrain where I wanted it. By mounting the engine approximately five inches forward of where a stock small block would mount, I was able to install the NAG1 with NO MODIFICATION to tunnel or crossmember. Of course this was a J body, so it might not work that well in your car. I had to use a rear sump pan, and truck passenger exhaust manifold, but otherwise all of the Charger stuff went in. How did you end up controlling the NAG1?? Did you use a factory computer?
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Re: NAG1 into an A body??
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I used the AlterKtion setup in mine. I ordered it without the motor mounts welded in, so I could position the drivetrain where I wanted it. By mounting the engine approximately five inches forward of where a stock small block would mount, I was able to install the NAG1 with NO MODIFICATION to tunnel or crossmember. Of course this was a J body, so it might not work that well in your car. I had to use a rear sump pan, and truck passenger exhaust manifold, but otherwise all of the Charger stuff went in. How did that affect the handling by shifting all that weight forward ?
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