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71 Challenger Fender Emblem Location #2154422
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Recently the "R/T" emblem was discussed, but I didn't see where it came up. Looking for the location of the script "Challenger" emblem on the fender for a 71 challenger that has the R/T stripe. I have a copy of the factory drawing that shows the R/T emblem placement. But off that drawing I'm not able to figure out the script emblem placement.

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Re: 71 Challenger Fender Emblem Location [Re: Mopar.70] #2166408
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since you haven't had any response ..... I will add this photo of mine. hope it helps !

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Re: 71 Challenger Fender Emblem Location [Re: Mopar.70] #2166530
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Originally Posted By Mopar.70
Recently the "R/T" emblem was discussed, but I didn't see where it came up. Looking for the location of the script "Challenger" emblem on the fender for a 71 challenger that has the R/T stripe. I have a copy of the factory drawing that shows the R/T emblem placement. But off that drawing I'm not able to figure out the script emblem placement.



I'll assume you have this factory print?, if so it won't help with the "lone" 71 Challenger script/emblem with stripe pkg

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Re: 71 Challenger Fender Emblem Location [Re: DAYCLONA] #2166531
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Here's the factory stripe print if you need that?

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Re: 71 Challenger Fender Emblem Location [Re: DAYCLONA] #2166534
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Unless a member can supply original location/measurements for you, the best might be to estimate from a factory picture

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If you "draw" lines from the front marker light to the Challenger script/emblem they appear on different planes (one appears "above" the side marker, while the other appears "in-line" with the side marker) on these factory pics, like most things Mopar there are many variations, just like the R/T emblem placement on 70 challenger grilles, So IMHO whether you use factory prints, actual measurements from any source, a guess/estimation?, there will always be someone to "challenge" your final decision regardless of your source

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Re: 71 Challenger Fender Emblem Location [Re: DAYCLONA] #2167088
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Originally Posted By DAYCLONA
Originally Posted By Mopar.70
Recently the "R/T" emblem was discussed, but I didn't see where it came up. Looking for the location of the script "Challenger" emblem on the fender for a 71 challenger that has the R/T stripe. I have a copy of the factory drawing that shows the R/T emblem placement. But off that drawing I'm not able to figure out the script emblem placement.



I'll assume you have this factory print?, if so it won't help with the "lone" 71 Challenger script/emblem with stripe pkg


It's funny that this drawing shows the 71 RT emblem location in relation to the Challenger emblem but shows the 70 badge locations

Re: 71 Challenger Fender Emblem Location [Re: Morty426] #2167548
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I "played" sawzall with these two drawings a little scope

it looks like the '70 "Challenger" script is .16" forward compared to '71

it looks like the '70 "Challenger" script is 5.00" above the '71 placement

interesting no the '71 "R/T" placement makes NO mention of with or without stripes or body side mouldings

what is a practical reference to the "0" lines?
front to back work engine/transmission parting line?
bottom to top work centerline of crankshaft?
left to right whistling center of car

any comments/clarifications?

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Re: 71 Challenger Fender Emblem Location [Re: 6bblgt] #2167730
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Originally Posted By 6bblgt


what is a practical reference to the "0" lines?


any comments/clarifications?




Generally any reference to the "Zero/O" line in the Architectural/drafting/machine part print/etc world is in regard to a 'draftsman's SCALE ruler' (those triangular/3 sided white scale rulers) the "Zero/O" reference line (the "zero" starting line on the scale desired that your measurements will be based on) will vary depending on the print scale deployed, and will be located at different points on the various rule's scales depending on what scale was chosen

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Originally Posted By DAYCLONA
Generally any reference to the "Zero/O" line in the Architectural/drafting/machine part print/etc world is in regard to a 'draftsman's SCALE ruler' (those triangular/3 sided white scale rulers) the "Zero/O" reference line (the "zero" starting line on the scale desired that your measurements will be based on) will vary depending on the print scale deployed, and will be located at different points on the various rule's scales depending on what scale was chosen


sorry, NO!

the "0" on these drawings has nothing to do with scale, it's the intersection of the X, Y, & Z-planes that represent the starting point for all dimensions - it is constant

Re: 71 Challenger Fender Emblem Location [Re: 6bblgt] #2167864
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Originally Posted By 6bblgt
Originally Posted By DAYCLONA
Generally any reference to the "Zero/O" line in the Architectural/drafting/machine part print/etc world is in regard to a 'draftsman's SCALE ruler' (those triangular/3 sided white scale rulers) the "Zero/O" reference line (the "zero" starting line on the scale desired that your measurements will be based on) will vary depending on the print scale deployed, and will be located at different points on the various rule's scales depending on what scale was chosen


sorry, NO!

the "0" on these drawings has nothing to do with scale, it's the intersection of the X, Y, & Z-planes that represent the starting point for all dimensions - it is constant


Actually it has to do with both. It does references a point in space measured from 0,0 but also has a scale of 1 inch. A Challenger fender emblem is ~7 inches in length which is close to the sum of the dims.

But lets try to put this to sleep since we really don't know where 0,0 is on a car. So...

We (or I) know where an emblem goes on a F series (70). The bottom of the "G" is ~1" above the body line. Since 71s are 5" lower (thanks Dan) it then should be 4" below the body line. That places the "C" (passenger side) ~4" from the edge of the fender, but the drawing shows it's offset 0.16" from the reference.

So that means the passenger emblem would be 3.84" to the "C" from the fender edge and 4" to the bottom of the "g" from the body line.

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Re: 71 Challenger Fender Emblem Location [Re: Mopar.70] #2168231
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Stick them on where you think they look best. Unless someone turns up a picture of the car the day it turned up at the dealers, how can anyone tell you the emblems are in the wrong place?

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Originally Posted By TiMopar
Stick them on where you think they look best. Unless someone turns up a picture of the car the day it turned up at the dealers, how can anyone tell you the emblems are in the wrong place?




Agreed, I'm sure no 2 cars are "surgically exact" in this regard, as it was an adhesive backed decal, there may have been a mask used on the assy. line to generalize location? or it may have been up to the individual working the line that day as to where it was placed

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Originally Posted By DAYCLONA
Originally Posted By TiMopar
Stick them on where you think they look best. Unless someone turns up a picture of the car the day it turned up at the dealers, how can anyone tell you the emblems are in the wrong place?




Agreed, I'm sure no 2 cars are "surgically exact" in this regard, as it was an adhesive backed decal, there may have been a mask used on the assy. line to generalize location? or it may have been up to the individual working the line that day as to where it was placed


Totally agree! Plus if they had a template I wouldn't be surprised if they mixed up left and right. I have two Challengers with their original hoods. They should have three holes for the engine call out (one 440 SIXPACK and the other 426 HEMI) yet they both have 4 holes because they used the wrong template on the wrong side and had to add a hole.

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Thanks for the replies guys. I was away on vacation. Will review all the posts and go from there.







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