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What is the difference between the Drag Pak & Hellcat? #2035861
03/21/16 05:24 PM
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I see one is called the Drag Pak and sports one kind of supercharger, and the Hellcat looks way different....Cubic inches aside, what is the difference?


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: What is the difference between the Drag Pak & Hellcat? [Re: Dragula] #2035883
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Lol, dragpak is a factory built car intended for strip use only, doesn't get a vin, similar to the 68 barracuda/dart.
Hellcat is a wicked modern muscle car

Re: What is the difference between the Drag Pak & Hellcat? [Re: Dragula] #2035914
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DP has a 2.9 Whipple blower which is a class rule in fs/xx.


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Re: What is the difference between the Drag Pak & Hellcat? [Re: GTS340] #2035951
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I should have been more specific. Just the difference in the blown engines...

Looks like two different supercharger top ends between them...The DP engine says Whipple right on it, but the Hellcat engine looks a bit different.

Can I buy either supercharger setup, and build my own long block?


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: What is the difference between the Drag Pak & Hellcat? [Re: Dragula] #2035959
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The DP is based of the 5.7 but which one? Early or VVT?
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Re: What is the difference between the Drag Pak & Hellcat? [Re: Dragula] #2036030
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Originally Posted By Dragula
I should have been more specific. Just the difference in the blown engines...

Looks like two different supercharger top ends between them...The DP engine says Whipple right on it, but the Hellcat engine looks a bit different.

Can I buy either supercharger setup, and build my own long block?
Have not found a Hellcat IHI blower for sale yet, the Hellcat setup is built with 100K mile durability in mind. The DP setup is built with light weight and rules compliance in mind. Here is a breakdown of the Hellcat specs:
http://www.hotrod.com/features/1503-inside-the-hellcat-hemi-v8/
DP specs I have not found any as far as long block.


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Re: What is the difference between the Drag Pak & Hellcat? [Re: 72Swinger] #2036130
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Originally Posted By 72Swinger
Originally Posted By Dragula
I should have been more specific. Just the difference in the blown engines...

Looks like two different supercharger top ends between them...The DP engine says Whipple right on it, but the Hellcat engine looks a bit different.

Can I buy either supercharger setup, and build my own long block?
Have not found a Hellcat IHI blower for sale yet, the Hellcat setup is built with 100K mile durability in mind. The DP setup is built with light weight and rules compliance in mind. Here is a breakdown of the Hellcat specs:
http://www.hotrod.com/features/1503-inside-the-hellcat-hemi-v8/
DP specs I have not found any as far as long block.


Read thru some of that and the Hellcat blower is 2.4L according to them and the DP is a 2.9L unit....Do we know if the DP unit is intercooled? I suspect not, but figured I would ask.


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: What is the difference between the Drag Pak & Hellcat? [Re: Dragula] #2036358
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Re: What is the difference between the Drag Pak & Hellcat? [Re: Dragula] #2036449
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you can buy everything for a hellcat here

http://www.factorymoparparts.net/auto-pa...components-scat


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Re: What is the difference between the Drag Pak & Hellcat? [Re: Dragula] #2036450
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Re: What is the difference between the Drag Pak & Hellcat? [Re: blown71duster] #2036591
03/22/16 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted By blown71duster


You know, I called those guys over x-mass I think and they didn't have a bracket that fit one like that! That is way easier to do, I would just need an engine plate sandwiched in there.....

I have a 5.7 core down at the shop...I would just need the stroker kit, oil pan, engine plate and super charger and carb....

Thanks for posting that.


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: What is the difference between the Drag Pak & Hellcat? [Re: Dragula] #2036722
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There is a place selling procharger pattern brackets made for fabbing . I have seen guys use wood as a pattern to figure out how they want to mount the supercharger , then transfer that to the real bracket:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ProCharger-Universal-Supercharger-Mounting-Bracket-F1-F2-/111614966845

http://www.ramforum.com/f44/taking_procharger_making_better-78993/

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