Re: broken 4-sp
[Re: 4spdana]
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04/02/15 11:20 AM
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That is 4th gear that is broke, looks to be a 2.47 close ratio 23 spline, so that is the cluster/input shaft you have to use.
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Re: broken 4-sp
[Re: 4spdana]
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04/02/15 06:42 PM
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It has to be from a 71-4 trans, I have used ones in stock.
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Re: broken 4-sp
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04/03/15 07:05 AM
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That is 4th gear that is broke, looks to be a 2.47 close ratio 23 spline, so that is the cluster/input shaft you have to use.
Kinda curious why you mention it's 4th gear that's broke. The trans doesn't even need the cluster gear in it for 4th gear to work.
1st, 2nd, 3rd gears are all screwed, with the input and cluster damage shown, but I don't see why the shift ring shouldn't engage the input for 4th.
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Re: broken 4-sp
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04/03/15 11:12 AM
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I mentioned it was 4th because it was called 3rd gear.....The fact that it will go into 4th gear and "work" is kinda pointless since like you mentioned the trash run through the trans likely tore up more than just the cluster/input.
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Re: broken 4-sp
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04/03/15 02:48 PM
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That is 4th gear that is broke, looks to be a 2.47 close ratio 23 spline, so that is the cluster/input shaft you have to use.
Kinda curious why you mention it's 4th gear that's broke. The trans doesn't even need the cluster gear in it for 4th gear to work.
1st, 2nd, 3rd gears are all screwed, with the input and cluster damage shown, but I don't see why the shift ring shouldn't engage the input for 4th.
Do you have an engine with enough torque ... and enough gear ... to start off in 1:1 ???
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Re: broken 4-sp
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04/04/15 02:04 AM
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That is 4th gear that is broke, looks to be a 2.47 close ratio 23 spline, so that is the cluster/input shaft you have to use.
Kinda curious why you mention it's 4th gear that's broke. The trans doesn't even need the cluster gear in it for 4th gear to work.
1st, 2nd, 3rd gears are all screwed, with the input and cluster damage shown, but I don't see why the shift ring shouldn't engage the input for 4th.
Do you have an engine with enough torque ... and enough gear ... to start off in 1:1 ???
And that matters why? I never suggested that he - or I - actually drive the car starting in 4th gear. I simply mentioned that 4th gear - in this case the input shaft face plate and the slide ring - didn't appear damaged. In a true 833 4 speed, the damaged area/gear on the input shaft (in the picture) that drives the cluster has NOTHING to do with 4th gear. The cluster itself has NOTHING to do with 4 gear - doesn't even need to be in the trans for 4th gear to operate - if for some reason you choose to operate it that way.. Now, if it was an 833OD trans, in this case 3rd gear would be good, and 4th gear would be hurt - along with 1st and 2nd, although at that point most people call that gear OVERDRIVE, not 4th.
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Re: broken 4-sp
[Re: fourgearsavoy]
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04/04/15 11:35 AM
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<SNIP!>....Take it from someone that has torn up a few 23 spline boxes, stop wasting money on them and get a HEMI box You can stop looking at what caused the carnage because it was traction, horsepower, and a hard hitting clutch. Gus
I've eaten more than a few 23-spline A833s with a healthy small block, road-course type use. Shucked teeth right off the countershaft and speed gears. Even built boxes with new (NOS '60s) gears, still ate 'em. This was in a light A-body, too. I was really bummed to have to walk away from the 3.09:1 first, but there was no other option.
18-spline or modern tranny swap. No other viable options. That's my 2¢.
Rick
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