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Re: Srt4 will not move [Re: Supercuda] #1781876
03/19/15 01:28 PM
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So it looks like I'll be removing a trans this weekend. It was supposed to have had a new stage three clutch in it I guess we'll see.

Re: Srt4 will not move [Re: 79machocharger] #1781877
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So it looks like I'll be removing a trans this weekend. It was supposed to have had a new stage three clutch in it I guess we'll see.




Allow me to preface this with the statement that I know almost nothing about SRT-4's.

Years ago I had a neighbor that had a Honda CVCC that would not move. Supposedly a friend changed the clutch and it did not help. Since I owed her some favors I told her I'd look at it. The clutch in that car was hydraulically operated, but did have provisions for adjustment at the fork. That was the only problem and it took me maybe 5 minutes to fix it. It had sat for years prior.

Never assume the last "mechanic" in there had a clue.


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Re: Srt4 will not move [Re: Supercuda] #1781878
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So it looks like I'll be removing a trans this weekend. It was supposed to have had a new stage three clutch in it I guess we'll see.




Allow me to preface this with the statement that I know almost nothing about SRT-4's.

Years ago I had a neighbor that had a Honda CVCC that would not move. Supposedly a friend changed the clutch and it did not help. Since I owed her some favors I told her I'd look at it. The clutch in that car was hydraulically operated, but did have provisions for adjustment at the fork. That was the only problem and it took me maybe 5 minutes to fix it. It had sat for years prior.

Never assume the last "mechanic" in there had a clue.





If it was the clutch hydraulic slave cyl not working or the cable broke he could not put the trans in any gear with the eng running as it would be like putting and normal woking manual trans car in gear without pushing the clutch in. Which as we know is not going to happen. But I am sure the owner as we all do is appreciate your input.

Let us know how you make out. Ron

Re: Srt4 will not move [Re: 383man] #1781879
03/20/15 09:17 PM
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If the clutch is engaged and the wheel is turning,
you should not be able to grab the wheel,
let alone stop it.
Your trouble is most definately clutch related.
I would first try to adjust it.
If that is a no go you probably need a new clutch.
Never believe what the seller told you, unless a trusted friend.
Good luck and let us know how things turn out.


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I can screw up anything.
Re: Srt4 will not move [Re: bboogieart] #1781880
03/21/15 02:00 PM
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Got the tranny out and I can't see any issues with it.

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Re: Srt4 will not move [Re: 79machocharger] #1781881
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Clutch, how can you tell if the clutch is bad by looking at it

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Re: Srt4 will not move [Re: 79machocharger] #1781882
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you have to unbolt it from the engine side of the flywheel

Re: Srt4 will not move [Re: AARCONV] #1781883
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Update. We're in garage. Pulled trans. When turning input shaft on trans while
in gear we can put an axle in and hold it in place. Sound like a trans issue?

Re: Srt4 will not move [Re: mymcodebee] #1781884
03/21/15 07:56 PM
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Re: Srt4 will not move [Re: 3hundred] #1781885
03/21/15 08:04 PM
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You need both axles in and held to tell if it is internal the differential will allow the spider gear that is not engaged to an axle to spin and you wont be able to tell without both axles engaged


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Re: Srt4 will not move [Re: jwilson 61] #1781886
03/21/15 11:48 PM
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Quote:

You need both axles in and held to tell if it is internal the differential will allow the spider gear that is not engaged to an axle to spin and you wont be able to tell without both axles engaged



05s have the Quaife diff, so it may have broken worm gears too

Are ya going to part the car? If so I have a list

Re: Srt4 will not move [Re: 383man] #1781887
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So it looks like I'll be removing a trans this weekend. It was supposed to have had a new stage three clutch in it I guess we'll see.




Allow me to preface this with the statement that I know almost nothing about SRT-4's.

Years ago I had a neighbor that had a Honda CVCC that would not move. Supposedly a friend changed the clutch and it did not help. Since I owed her some favors I told her I'd look at it. The clutch in that car was hydraulically operated, but did have provisions for adjustment at the fork. That was the only problem and it took me maybe 5 minutes to fix it. It had sat for years prior.

Never assume the last "mechanic" in there had a clue.





If it was the clutch hydraulic slave cyl not working or the cable broke he could not put the trans in any gear with the eng running as it would be like putting and normal woking manual trans car in gear without pushing the clutch in. Which as we know is not going to happen. But I am sure the owner as we all do is appreciate your input.

Let us know how you make out. Ron




Reading comprehension is not your forte is it?

Go back and reread it, pay very close attention to the very last line I wrote. Ask your mommy for help with the big words.

If you still cannot figure it out the first part was an allegory with the very last line the point of it. Again, mommy can help with the big words.


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They say there is always the exception that proves the rule.
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Re: Srt4 will not move [Re: A990] #1781888
03/22/15 03:26 PM
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Alright stuck both axles In the transmission and rotated the input shaft by hand and both axles rotate the same way(correct for lsd trans). The weird part is I can grab ahold of the input shaft and hold it still and still spins the axle? I can even spin the axles in different directions by hand. Should I be able to do this? Really appreciate the help guys. I tried getting onto a srt4 forum for some reason it's not letting me be a member.

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Re: Srt4 will not move [Re: 79machocharger] #1781889
03/23/15 01:10 AM
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One other poster with the bad third gear, You are going to need to buy a transmission. All the parts to rebuild the transmission are either on back order or no longer serviced. Third gear pop out is a common problem with these transmission and that is why we have stocked up on them for the three cars we have. Now the poster has to tell a little more on what he has tried with the axles. Is it in gear or not when testing. Will it go into gear while running and still will not move. Will it go into gear when it is not running. Post all what you have done on one post.


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Re: Srt4 will not move [Re: hemicar1971] #1781890
03/23/15 01:31 AM
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We found the issue today. He has some pics and will post them when he gets out of work.
It is a broken shift selector.

It looks exactly like this broken one.

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Re: Srt4 will not move [Re: mymcodebee] #1781891
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Common problem ..but it should not affect other gears..

Re: Srt4 will not move [Re: AARCONV] #1781892
03/23/15 08:05 PM
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Wierd who said cable/bushings or shift selector?

<-----this guy


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Re: Srt4 will not move [Re: moparjimbo] #1781893
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Also for future reference, this guy - Tim Zimmer - is local to me and does nothing but rebuild Getrag transmissions for DSM/Talon/Eclipse/Laser, Stealth/3000GT, and SRT4s. He can get parts, knows what he is doing, and is very reasonably priced.

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Re: Srt4 will not move [Re: moparjimbo] #1781894
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Thanks guys really appreciate all the help. Hope to have it all back in this weekend. Needed to open it up to get the broken tab off the selector laying inthe bottom of casing. Gears didn't get damaged so that's good. Turned out to be a cheap fix.

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