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Re: 1970 RR Auto with a 4Spd pedal bracket ????
[Re: skicker]
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12/23/14 02:07 PM
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They all have the firewall reinforcement plate behind the master cylinder. Auto and 4sp alike. 
The bracket to the right of the master that supports the 4spd pedal is the question.
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Re: 1970 RR Auto with a 4Spd pedal bracket ????
[Re: BMChrysler68]
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12/23/14 02:15 PM
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Original floor pedal and column pic1
Did someone's body do that to the steering wheel?
It had to of been damaged when the car spent time in Texas Acres. There is no frame damage that supports a crash that would cause the wheel to collapse like that.
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Re: 1970 RR Auto with a 4Spd pedal bracket ????
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12/23/14 02:37 PM
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They all have the firewall reinforcement plate behind the master cylinder. Auto and 4sp alike.
The bracket to the right of the master that supports the 4spd pedal is the question.
I attached the pic below just so everyone understands which piece you are asking about. 
Is there a fender tag to confirm codes?
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Re: 1970 RR Auto with a 4Spd pedal bracket ????
[Re: moparfan53]
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12/23/14 02:46 PM
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BMChrysler68
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Rust is a weird thing. The heavy gauge stuff looks ultra-crusty with deep pits and corrosion; but the sheetmetal looks to be in decent shape. It's almost like it chose to go after the meatier stuff first. Science.
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2dr FT, 383-4v, 4 speed
1972 AMC Ambassador SST wagon
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Re: 1970 RR Auto with a 4Spd pedal bracket ????
[Re: RalphsRapidTrnst]
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12/23/14 02:46 PM
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I think that some got it regardless of transmission. I've converted several auto trans. cars to 4 spds. and only had to hang the clutch pedal and swap the brake pedal.  Tim
'71 Charger 383/727 '17 Challenger SXT (Wifeys car  )
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Re: 1970 RR Auto with a 4Spd pedal bracket ????
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12/23/14 02:49 PM
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Maybe they realized later in production that they could accomplish the same thing with one part #. Or, because the manual trans was standard in the B-body, they had more of them laying around.
This is all assuming that the manual trans assembly is all one piece with two extra bolts in the firewall, of course. I'm not familiar with the B-body assemblies.
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2dr FT, 383-4v, 4 speed
1972 AMC Ambassador SST wagon
360-4v, automatic
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Re: 1970 RR Auto with a 4Spd pedal bracket ????
[Re: BMChrysler68]
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12/23/14 02:52 PM
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I haven't seen them on auto cars for 68 and 69. I would think that the factory wouldn't use the part unless needed. If they could save a few cents by not having that bracket there, they would. Most likely a mistake. Its hard to tell, but is the a bracket welded to the top of the frame rail down under the master cylinder?
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Re: 1970 RR Auto with a 4Spd pedal bracket ????
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12/23/14 03:15 PM
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Its hard to tell, but is the a bracket welded to the top of the frame rail down under the master cylinder?
Clean with no signs of ever having the z-bar pivot bracket installed. All of the original auto linkage is still there.
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Re: 1970 RR Auto with a 4Spd pedal bracket ????
[Re: moparfan53]
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They all have the firewall reinforcement plate behind the master cylinder. Auto and 4sp alike.
The bracket to the right of the master that supports the 4spd pedal is the question.
I attached the pic below just so everyone understands which piece you are asking about.
Is there a fender tag to confirm codes?
When I saw the bracket it excited me to think this was a manual trans RR. When I looked for more evidence and found none, because all of the auto peices are in place with no chance of this being a manual shift RR other than the bracket. I now questioned my beliefs regarding other B-Bodies that I have seen with the bracket.
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Re: 1970 RR Auto with a 4Spd pedal bracket ????
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12/24/14 12:38 PM
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I think it was just an assembly line goof up.
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