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3rd gear issues in 727 #1598932 03/26/14 11:13 PM 03/26/14 11:13 PM
Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 30 So.IL. S shaggy1 OP member
shaggy1 OP member S Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 30 So.IL.	I have a 360/727 in my dart that doesn't want to go into 3rd. 1st to 2nd shifts fine, but it doesn't want to shift into third unless I am really standing in it, and only does when I let off of throttle a bit. After that it's fine until I start to get back around 30 mph or so, and then drops back to 2nd fairly hard. Just got this on the road, thought it was just shifter cable mis-adjusted but worked on it today and wasn't the issue. Don't know if I have all the right tv linkage, planning on ordering the bouchillion setup fri. Is there anything else I need to look for or do? Thanks in advance.

Re: 3rd gear issues in 727 [Re: shaggy1] #1598933 03/26/14 11:40 PM 03/26/14 11:40 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 581 Wisconsin B beecrazy69 mopar
beecrazy69 mopar B Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 581 Wisconsin	Sounds like the TV linkage is pushing the trans lever too far rearward. Should be many of topics on this forum covering this. Do you have 2 barrel linkage hooked to a 4 barrel? Can you push the carb to WOT with the linkage hooked up, try unhooked first....

Re: 3rd gear issues in 727 [Re: shaggy1] #1598934 03/26/14 11:51 PM 03/26/14 11:51 PM
Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 30 So.IL. S shaggy1 OP member
shaggy1 OP member S Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 30 So.IL.	Have a stock intake with holley street avenger. Car had 318/904 when I bought it and just finished the 360/727 swap. I used the linkage that was on the 904, was wondering if that would make any diff. That's why I was gonna order the bouchillion setup, along with trying to clean up the mess that the previous owner had for throttle cable, etc.

Re: 3rd gear issues in 727 [Re: shaggy1] #1598935 03/26/14 11:59 PM 03/26/14 11:59 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,134 A Banana Republic near you. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,134 A Banana Republic near you.	Quote: Have a stock intake with holley street avenger. Car had 318/904 when I bought it and just finished the 360/727 swap. I used the linkage that was on the 904, was wondering if that would make any diff. That's why I was gonna order the bouchillion setup, along with trying to clean up the mess that the previous owner had for throttle cable, etc. The 904/ 2bbl setup is not the same as would be used a 727 with a 4bbl. this is the problem .

Re: 3rd gear issues in 727 [Re: shaggy1] #1598936 03/27/14 12:04 AM 03/27/14 12:04 AM
Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 30 So.IL. S shaggy1 OP member
shaggy1 OP member S Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 30 So.IL.	It was the same setup 4bbl with the 904, will that make a difference? Is the Bouchillon setup the way to go?

Re: 3rd gear issues in 727 [Re: shaggy1] #1598937 03/27/14 12:36 AM 03/27/14 12:36 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 33,007 Grand Prairie,Texas stumpy I Win
stumpy I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 33,007 Grand Prairie,Texas	Yes it will and yes you do.

Re: 3rd gear issues in 727 [Re: shaggy1] #1598938 03/27/14 12:44 AM 03/27/14 12:44 AM
Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 30 So.IL. S shaggy1 OP member
shaggy1 OP member S Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 30 So.IL.	That's what I figured, but wasn't sure. It's been 15 yrs or so since I had an old mopar and seem to have forgotten a few things. To many ex-wives and adult beverages.

Re: 3rd gear issues in 727 [Re: shaggy1] #1598939 03/27/14 07:04 PM 03/27/14 07:04 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 8,383 fredericksburg,va C cudaman1969 master
cudaman1969 master C Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 8,383 fredericksburg,va	solid rod all the way to trans or pivot at the back of manifold? All you need is to make the rod longer at the top, this could help the old lady issues too.

Re: 3rd gear issues in 727 [Re: shaggy1] #1598940 03/27/14 07:44 PM 03/27/14 07:44 PM
Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 30 So.IL. S shaggy1 OP member
shaggy1 OP member S Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 30 So.IL.	Bahahaha, funny. That's the only part that they enjoy, cant stand the rest. But seriously, thanks for everybodys help, already ordered the bpe kit this morning. Never did like fooling with the linkage even back then.

Re: 3rd gear issues in 727 [Re: shaggy1] #1598941 03/27/14 08:08 PM 03/27/14 08:08 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 26,044 Rio Linda, CA John_Kunkel Too Many Posts
John_Kunkel Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 26,044 Rio Linda, CA	Quote: Have a stock intake with holley street avenger. mess that the previous owner had for throttle cable, etc. Does the carb have the Mopar throttle lever extension? (Holley 20-7) Without it you'll never get the TP linkage to work correctly. The INTERNET, the MISinformation superhighway

Re: 3rd gear issues in 727 [Re: shaggy1] #1598942 03/27/14 08:22 PM 03/27/14 08:22 PM
Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 30 So.IL. S shaggy1 OP member
shaggy1 OP member S Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 30 So.IL.	Yeah, I actually put it on myself shortly after buying the car. It had issues already, no wot and was pieced together with homemade extensions and basically crap. Had it working ok, but with a brand new 360 on a stand, well you know, I just couldn't stand it. So 8 3/4 3:91 suregrip, to replace the 7 1/4, meant the driveshaft was to long, so instead of cutting shaft twice, in went 360/727.

Re: 3rd gear issues in 727 [Re: shaggy1] #1598943 03/27/14 10:39 PM 03/27/14 10:39 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,351 Benton, IL. D DaveRS23 Special needs idiot
DaveRS23 Special needs idiot D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,351 Benton, IL.	Where you located, Shaggy? I have a couple of boxes of kick down linkages. Some one piece and some multi. Should be plenty enough to fab up what you need. Let me know if you are close enough and want some. Master, again and still

Re: 3rd gear issues in 727 [Re: shaggy1] #1598944 03/28/14 12:20 AM 03/28/14 12:20 AM
Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 30 So.IL. S shaggy1 OP member
shaggy1 OP member S Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 30 So.IL.	Actually located not far from you DaveRS23. I'm in Hburg. I would take you up on that but have already ordered the BPE kit first thing this morning. Appreciate the thought though.

Re: 3rd gear issues in 727 [Re: John_Kunkel] #1598945 03/28/14 02:43 AM 03/28/14 02:43 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md 3 383man Too Many Posts
383man Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	Quote: Quote: Have a stock intake with holley street avenger. mess that the previous owner had for throttle cable, etc. Does the carb have the Mopar throttle lever extension? (Holley 20-7) Without it you'll never get the TP linkage to work correctly. Had one give me trouble because of that. Get the TP right so its shifts right and has the downshift at the right speed but then you cant get full throttle. Adjust so you can get full throttle and then shift pattern is off and wont downshift. It can be very hard to impossible to get it right without the correct linkage for the right ratio. Ron Last edited by 383man; 03/28/14 02:45 AM.

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