Re: Tell me why I should or shouldn't
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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01/29/14 03:39 PM
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I think another con would be heating the bottle or keeping it warm
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Re: Tell me why I should or shouldn't
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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01/29/14 03:40 PM
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For one thing... the bottle needs to be point in the proper direction... and from what you are saying I would think you are putting it in sideways which is wrong....JMO... since I'm not a nitrous guy
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Re: Tell me why I should or shouldn't
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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01/29/14 03:45 PM
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For one thing... the bottle needs to be point in the proper direction... and from what you are saying I would think you are putting it in sideways which is wrong....JMO... since I'm not a nitrous guy
Bottles will work sideways if they are rotated the right way.
It will be more difficult to swap bottles, a track official may not be able to kill the bottle in case of an accident. Just a couple thoughts
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Re: Tell me why I should or shouldn't
[Re: SpareParts]
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01/29/14 03:50 PM
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Hard to get too. Where are you putting pressure guage? How are you going to heat it?
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Re: Tell me why I should or shouldn't
[Re: SpareParts]
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01/29/14 03:55 PM
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For one thing... the bottle needs to be point in the proper direction... and from what you are saying I would think you are putting it in sideways which is wrong....JMO... since I'm not a nitrous guy
Bottles will work sideways if they are rotated the right way.
It will be more difficult to swap bottles, a track official may not be able to kill the bottle in case of an accident. Just a couple thoughts
I know they have a pickup tube inside and in most cases laying on its side wasnt the best way to get the max amount out of the bottle... the tube basically goes to the bottom corner of the bottle... I have a couple of kits and bottles and I know I would never mount the bottle laying on its side
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Re: Tell me why I should or shouldn't
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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01/29/14 04:06 PM
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Man how many cars have I seen with the bottle mounted to the right floor? Quite a few.
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Re: Tell me why I should or shouldn't
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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01/29/14 04:22 PM
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Unless its a 5lb bottle, I wouldn't.
Changing the bottle would be a complete pain. Go through all the effort of hiding it, only to spend 20 minutes under the dash at the track to swap the bottle out...
Also mounting weight high and up front...
If it is truly under the dash, not sure how easy it will be to turn it off, I would run a seperate 1/4 turn that you can access strapped in, just in case.
I mounted mine behind the seat, with a black bottle blanket you really have to look for it.
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Re: Tell me why I should or shouldn't
[Re: Thumperdart]
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01/29/14 05:33 PM
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I don't have anything under the dash. no nothing. I can open the glove box door and get to it. It would be mounted sideways, and while it wouldn't be as easy as the trunk it could be done in 5-10 minutes. Also how is it easier to turn off in the trunk? I have a lock and key. Heat? I only run in nice weather and that area gets warm as I don't have firewall insolation. How hot does it need to be? I see tons of bottles in the car, even on the floor. A lot of guys here don't even use a blanket or heater. It would be sideways but I think I can make it work. It won't be used all the time, maybe once or twice a race weekend. Maybe more if I want to run the 6.50 1/8 mile index or 10.50 1/4 index. I'm only going to run a 100-150 shot. Next motor will be badder, just having fun w/ this one. As I understand it it's an oxidizer and not flammable. It will have a full range of safety stuff, on/off, WOT switch and so on. Somebody said pressure gauge, I can see it thru the glove box door, or just peak under the dash depending.
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Re: Tell me why I should or shouldn't
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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01/29/14 06:21 PM
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look at the bright side,if you crash and nobody can get to it,you wont feel a thing while youre choking on your own puke from the anti inhalation additive.................is that colorfull enough for you?
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Re: Tell me why I should or shouldn't
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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01/29/14 06:29 PM
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I don't have anything under the dash. no nothing. I can open the glove box door and get to it. It would be mounted sideways, and while it wouldn't be as easy as the trunk it could be done in 5-10 minutes. Also how is it easier to turn off in the trunk? I have a lock and key. Heat? I only run in nice weather and that area gets warm as I don't have firewall insolation. How hot does it need to be? I see tons of bottles in the car, even on the floor. A lot of guys here don't even use a blanket or heater. It would be sideways but I think I can make it work. It won't be used all the time, maybe once or twice a race weekend. Maybe more if I want to run the 6.50 1/8 mile index or 10.50 1/4 index. I'm only going to run a 100-150 shot. Next motor will be badder, just having fun w/ this one. As I understand it it's an oxidizer and not flammable. It will have a full range of safety stuff, on/off, WOT switch and so on. Somebody said pressure gauge, I can see it thru the glove box door, or just peak under the dash depending.
If you can't run those times without NOS you need another engine builder.
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Re: Tell me why I should or shouldn't
[Re: pittsburghracer]
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01/29/14 06:32 PM
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I don't have anything under the dash. no nothing. I can open the glove box door and get to it. It would be mounted sideways, and while it wouldn't be as easy as the trunk it could be done in 5-10 minutes. Also how is it easier to turn off in the trunk? I have a lock and key. Heat? I only run in nice weather and that area gets warm as I don't have firewall insolation. How hot does it need to be? I see tons of bottles in the car, even on the floor. A lot of guys here don't even use a blanket or heater. It would be sideways but I think I can make it work. It won't be used all the time, maybe once or twice a race weekend. Maybe more if I want to run the 6.50 1/8 mile index or 10.50 1/4 index. I'm only going to run a 100-150 shot. Next motor will be badder, just having fun w/ this one. As I understand it it's an oxidizer and not flammable. It will have a full range of safety stuff, on/off, WOT switch and so on. Somebody said pressure gauge, I can see it thru the glove box door, or just peak under the dash depending.
If you can't run those times without NOS you need another engine builder.
Read my above post..............
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Re: Tell me why I should or shouldn't
[Re: Thumperdart]
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01/29/14 06:36 PM
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I don't have anything under the dash. no nothing. I can open the glove box door and get to it. It would be mounted sideways, and while it wouldn't be as easy as the trunk it could be done in 5-10 minutes. Also how is it easier to turn off in the trunk? I have a lock and key. Heat? I only run in nice weather and that area gets warm as I don't have firewall insolation. How hot does it need to be? I see tons of bottles in the car, even on the floor. A lot of guys here don't even use a blanket or heater. It would be sideways but I think I can make it work. It won't be used all the time, maybe once or twice a race weekend. Maybe more if I want to run the 6.50 1/8 mile index or 10.50 1/4 index. I'm only going to run a 100-150 shot. Next motor will be badder, just having fun w/ this one. As I understand it it's an oxidizer and not flammable. It will have a full range of safety stuff, on/off, WOT switch and so on. Somebody said pressure gauge, I can see it thru the glove box door, or just peak under the dash depending.
If you can't run those times without NOS you need another engine builder.
Read my above post..............
I caught that. I just wanted to 2nd the motion.
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Re: Tell me why I should or shouldn't
[Re: SpareParts]
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01/29/14 07:20 PM
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I hope we never have to say something like; "we all tried to warn him about that, we'll miss him around here". or, " We hope your recovery goes as planned".
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Re: Tell me why I should or shouldn't
[Re: Thumperdart]
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01/29/14 07:46 PM
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I don't have anything under the dash. no nothing. I can open the glove box door and get to it. It would be mounted sideways, and while it wouldn't be as easy as the trunk it could be done in 5-10 minutes. Also how is it easier to turn off in the trunk? I have a lock and key. Heat? I only run in nice weather and that area gets warm as I don't have firewall insolation. How hot does it need to be? I see tons of bottles in the car, even on the floor. A lot of guys here don't even use a blanket or heater. It would be sideways but I think I can make it work. It won't be used all the time, maybe once or twice a race weekend. Maybe more if I want to run the 6.50 1/8 mile index or 10.50 1/4 index. I'm only going to run a 100-150 shot. Next motor will be badder, just having fun w/ this one. As I understand it it's an oxidizer and not flammable. It will have a full range of safety stuff, on/off, WOT switch and so on. Somebody said pressure gauge, I can see it thru the glove box door, or just peak under the dash depending.
If you can't run those times without NOS you need another engine builder.
Read my above post..............
This engine is probably good for 10's but I'd have to swap out the 6-pack, go with more gear and convert. No thanks I DRIVE it. Also consider it's no a gutted out A-body. Anybody can make those fast. I'm guessing w/ the Cal-Trac & mono spring It should be around 11.0 w/o the bottle. I guess that's real slow.
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Re: Tell me why I should or shouldn't
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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01/29/14 08:39 PM
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I don't have anything under the dash. no nothing. I can open the glove box door and get to it. It would be mounted sideways, and while it wouldn't be as easy as the trunk it could be done in 5-10 minutes. Also how is it easier to turn off in the trunk? I have a lock and key. Heat? I only run in nice weather and that area gets warm as I don't have firewall insolation. How hot does it need to be? I see tons of bottles in the car, even on the floor. A lot of guys here don't even use a blanket or heater. It would be sideways but I think I can make it work. It won't be used all the time, maybe once or twice a race weekend. Maybe more if I want to run the 6.50 1/8 mile index or 10.50 1/4 index. I'm only going to run a 100-150 shot. Next motor will be badder, just having fun w/ this one. As I understand it it's an oxidizer and not flammable. It will have a full range of safety stuff, on/off, WOT switch and so on. Somebody said pressure gauge, I can see it thru the glove box door, or just peak under the dash depending.
If you can't run those times without NOS you need another engine builder.
Read my above post..............
This engine is probably good for 10's but I'd have to swap out the 6-pack, go with more gear and convert. No thanks I DRIVE it. Also consider it's no a gutted out A-body. Anybody can make those fast. I'm guessing w/ the Cal-Trac & mono spring It should be around 11.0 w/o the bottle. I guess that's real slow.
You`re a fuuny guy........"anybody can make those fast" Ya, I see 9-second 3200 lbs.(at the time of my 9.79)driving around everyday..............and I drive my car all over but hey, thankxxx 4 the compliment..............
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Re: Tell me why I should or shouldn't
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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01/29/14 08:43 PM
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Heat? I only run in nice weather and that area gets warm as I don't have firewall insolation. How hot does it need to be As I understand it it's an oxidizer and not flammable
So you say your only going to run it in nice weather. And it gets warm in that Firewall area.
That tanks highly pressurised and blow up with too much heat.
To be convinced not to do it, Google "Nitrous tank explosions" Take a look at some of the Multible images.
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