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tell me about harland sharp rockers- roller vs bushed #1555115 12/29/13 01:55 PM 12/29/13 01:55 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,837 tulsa ok U upnover OP top fuel
upnover OP top fuel U Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,837 tulsa ok	I am needing a good set of rockers for lowdeck engine that I am changing heads/cam etc on.ez-1 heads w double springs, solid cam, street strip car that is seeing mostly strip currently, I am looking for a 1.6 rocker standard offset and have decided on either hughes or harlands, I saw some Harlands on clearance for a good price but it says that they are bushed, I went to harlands site and cant find any info on them, are they discontinued, or a lesser quality than the other(roller) ones? thanks for your time guys! Last edited by upnover; 12/29/13 01:57 PM.

Re: tell me about harland sharp rockers- roller vs bushed [Re: upnover] #1555116 12/29/13 02:37 PM 12/29/13 02:37 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion T Thumperdart I Live Here
Thumperdart I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion	Quote: I am needing a good set of rockers for lowdeck engine that I am changing heads/cam etc on.ez-1 heads w double springs, solid cam, street strip car that is seeing mostly strip currently, I am looking for a 1.6 rocker standard offset and have decided on either hughes or harlands, I saw some Harlands on clearance for a good price but it says that they are bushed, I went to harlands site and cant find any info on them, are they discontinued, or a lesser quality than the other(roller) ones? thanks for your time guys! Don`t know about the bushed ones but I`ve been runnin rollerized HS`s for about 8 years street strip w/an Isky .680-.660 solid roller........ 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: tell me about harland sharp rockers- roller vs bushed [Re: Thumperdart] #1555117 12/29/13 03:04 PM 12/29/13 03:04 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,813 A collage of whims topside Too Many Posts
topside Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,813 A collage of whims	I have a set of each (roller & bushed HS), no problems to report with either. The bushed style obviously does away with any fears about roller bearing failure, but I wasn't worried about that I got them, it was just a good deal on them from another racer (new in box, sitting around for years). IIRC, Ron (383man) has a Hughes setup - don't recall if bushed/roller - but he's happy with them on his street/strip monster.

Re: tell me about harland sharp rockers- roller vs bushed [Re: upnover] #1555118 12/29/13 04:02 PM 12/29/13 04:02 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,091 Delray beach, Florida P Performance Only top fuel
Performance Only top fuel P Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,091 Delray beach, Florida	I've installed the so called "bushed" rockers a few times on customer engines. They aren't actually bushed though. There is no bushing, just the parent aluminum from the extrusion like a Crane gold rocker. I prefer the rollerized Harland Sharps, especially if a solid roller cam will end up in the motor with higher spring pressures than the typical flat tappet cams. One other difference is the shafts. The less expensive rockers use shafts from pioneer. they have cup plugs in the shafts and they typically spit oil out around the plugs. Every set I've installed I've had to replace the plugs to get them to stop leaking. The better rockers use a harder shaft with screw in plugs on the ends. Basically you get what you pay for. machine shop owner and engine builder

Re: tell me about harland sharp rockers- roller vs bushed [Re: upnover] #1555119 12/29/13 04:07 PM 12/29/13 04:07 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,223 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,223 Bend,OR USA	Buy the good ones(rollers, not extruded non rollers or bushed ) and don't look back I have a set of the very early Harand Sharp 1.5 from the mid 1960s on one of my street motors, they had been abused and misused prior to me buying and using them, there still rolling right along without any issues I have bought and used several more sets of the new Harland Sharp 1.6 ratio(checked at the retainers to be 1.64 to 1.65 ) and found that like the 1.5 ratio rockers(checked out to be 1.54 ) they have more ratio than advertised, not less like a lot of the other rockers out there Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: tell me about harland sharp rockers- roller vs bushed [Re: Cab_Burge] #1555120 12/29/13 04:40 PM 12/29/13 04:40 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	I dont know why they would call them a "bushed" rocker if there isnt a bushing that can be replaced

Re: tell me about harland sharp rockers- roller vs bushed [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1555121 12/29/13 05:22 PM 12/29/13 05:22 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,837 tulsa ok U upnover OP top fuel
upnover OP top fuel U Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,837 tulsa ok	thanks for the info, I will hold out for the roller style.

Re: tell me about harland sharp rockers- roller vs bushed [Re: upnover] #1555122 12/29/13 06:11 PM 12/29/13 06:11 PM
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tubtar master Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,082 St. Paul , Mn.	+1 for rollerized. If you run any " larger " cam and / or elevated spring pressure , it is the clear way to go.

Re: tell me about harland sharp rockers- roller vs bushed [Re: upnover] #1555123 12/29/13 08:50 PM 12/29/13 08:50 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,102 Massillon, Ohio C cudatom super stock
cudatom super stock C Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,102 Massillon, Ohio	My brother has a set that is at least 25 yrs old. I got them w/a car we bought in 1988. Ran them on my Cuda for 12 yrs and my brother has had then for 13. I have no idea how old they were when we got them but they had been used. Ok

Re: tell me about harland sharp rockers- roller vs bushed [Re: cudatom] #1555124 12/29/13 09:23 PM 12/29/13 09:23 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,185 PA. pittsburghracer "Little"John
pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,185 PA.	The nice thing about Harlan Sharp rockers is the fact that even old used ones are still worth more than new cheap ones. And a lot easier to sell if you ever want or have to. 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: tell me about harland sharp rockers- roller vs bushed [Re: pittsburghracer] #1555125 12/30/13 04:00 AM 12/30/13 04:00 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md 3 383man Too Many Posts
383man Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	These are the bushed ( ? ) roller tip Hughes I have had on my eng for 2-1/2 years and they are holding up great. Last valve adjustment they were all still right on the money. Ron

Re: tell me about harland sharp rockers- roller vs bushed [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1555126 12/30/13 01:38 PM 12/30/13 01:38 PM
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Dean_Kuzluzski master D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,940 Holly/MI	Quote: I dont know why they would call them a "bushed" rocker if there isnt a bushing that can be replaced IF they are the "exclusive" ones sold by Mancini's they are advertised as "bushed style".......meaning extruded aluminum. R.I.P.- Gary "Coop" Davis 02/09/68-05/13/04

Re: tell me about harland sharp rockers- roller vs bushed [Re: Dean_Kuzluzski] #1555127 01/04/14 12:00 PM 01/04/14 12:00 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,837 tulsa ok U upnover OP top fuel
upnover OP top fuel U Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,837 tulsa ok	I found a set of the Harland rollers, they are supposed to be new just removed from the package, but not installed, im saving just under $100 compared to new, but for what they cost i'll take any savings that I can get, thanks guys for all of the replies! si

Re: tell me about harland sharp rockers- roller vs bushed [Re: upnover] #1555128 01/04/14 12:30 PM 01/04/14 12:30 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394 Q Quicktree I Win
Quicktree I Win Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394	so what are t&d and jesel?

Re: tell me about harland sharp rockers- roller vs bushed [Re: Quicktree] #1555129 01/04/14 03:30 PM 01/04/14 03:30 PM
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tubtar master Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,082 St. Paul , Mn.	Quote: so what are t&d and jesel? Price ? Somewhere just north of 1100.00 for individual shaft ( W-9 ), and probably slightly less for shared shaft.

Re: tell me about harland sharp rockers- roller vs bushed [Re: Quicktree] #1555130 01/04/14 03:35 PM 01/04/14 03:35 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,223 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,223 Bend,OR USA	Quote: so what are t&d and jesel? Call them and find out Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: tell me about harland sharp rockers- roller vs bushed [Re: tubtar] #1555131 01/04/14 03:41 PM 01/04/14 03:41 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,813 A collage of whims topside Too Many Posts
topside Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,813 A collage of whims	The bushed HS I have do actually have bushings. Apparently - if that's not common for them - they were custom-made, which would make sense since I got them from a racer buddy who'd be likely to order something like that. And you should definitely run the hardened shafts.

Re: tell me about harland sharp rockers- roller vs bushed [Re: topside] #1555132 01/04/14 04:08 PM 01/04/14 04:08 PM
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GTX MATT master Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,163 CT	I bought the "bushed" HS from Mancini, they do not actually have a bushing its just the aluminum. Now I need to pin those needles, got to feel that heat Hear my motor screamin while I'm tearin up the street

Re: tell me about harland sharp rockers- roller vs bushed [Re: GTX MATT] #1555133 01/04/14 10:27 PM 01/04/14 10:27 PM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 10,555 Rittman Ohio fourgearsavoy I Live Here
fourgearsavoy I Live Here Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 10,555 Rittman Ohio	I live about 45 min.from the HS shop and I went to see the bushed Mancini units when I first seen them. Now the ones I had in my hands had an actual bronze bushing in them Maybe they have since cheapen them since they first came out.I prefer the bronze myself on a S/S engine. I had a good older set of Isky rockers done up by RAS so I just stayed with them. Gus 7985217-004-001.JPG (117 downloads) 64 Plymouth Savoy 493 Indy EZ's by Nick at Compu-Flow 5-Speed Richmond faceplate Liberty box Dana 60

Re: tell me about harland sharp rockers- roller vs bushed [Re: Cab_Burge] #1555134 01/04/14 11:16 PM 01/04/14 11:16 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394 Q Quicktree I Win
Quicktree I Win Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394	Quote: Quote: so what are t&d and jesel? Call them and find out that tells me you never used any anyone know if they are bushed or bearings?

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