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Re: why would a stock street hemi have only 5in vacuum ? [Re: Cab_Burge] #1533366
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I just went from 114 to 111 and it didn't seem to care at all

Re: why would a stock street hemi have only 5in vacuum ? [Re: scatpacktom] #1533367
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I just went from 114 to 111 and it didn't seem to care at all


Try 110 to 108 LSA cams with the intake lobes at 104 to 106


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Re: why would a stock street hemi have only 5in vacuum ? [Re: Cab_Burge] #1533368
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It depends on what you are trying to acheive, The OP stated this is a resto car so ET at the track may not be his main consideration. A cam with around 220>225 @ .050 on 110>112 lobe seperation installed 2 to 4 degrees advanced will give a nice stong vaccum signal to the carbs enhancing tuning and also make plenty of vaccum to operate the power brakes.Oh and it wont burn your eyes out as much as a tight lobe cam!

Re: why would a stock street hemi have only 5in vacuum ? [Re: Teamx] #1533369
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It depends on what you are trying to acheive, The OP stated this is a resto car so ET at the track may not be his main consideration. A cam with around 220>225 @ .050 on 110>112 lobe seperation installed 2 to 4 degrees advanced will give a nice stong vaccum signal to the carbs enhancing tuning and also make plenty of vaccum to operate the power brakes.Oh and it wont burn your eyes out as much as a tight lobe cam!


I've never seen Eyeballs damaged by camshaft lobe centers, ever Rich mixtures are another subject entirely Carbs. may need modifying, tuning, when you change any of the stock parts to non stock parts, just like adding headers usually requires leaning down the carbs on all the pertinent circiuts, idle, transistion, main and sometimes the secondary jetting also That is if you want the best results from your changes You can lean the idle circuits down two diffeent ways, restrict the idle fuel feed or open up the idle bleeds to reduce the vacume signal too the idle circuits, sometimes doing both is the best answer


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Re: why would a stock street hemi have only 5in vacuum ? [Re: Teamx] #1533370
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It depends on what you are trying to acheive, The OP stated this is a resto car so ET at the track may not be his main consideration. A cam with around 220>225 @ .050 on 110>112 lobe seperation installed 2 to 4 degrees advanced will give a nice stong vaccum signal to the carbs enhancing tuning and also make plenty of vaccum to operate the power brakes.Oh and it wont burn your eyes out as much as a tight lobe cam!



I understand what your saying. It's not about rich or lean carbs its about high hydrocarbons . That's what burns your eyes. And yes engine with big aggressive cams will do that.


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Re: why would a stock street hemi have only 5in vacuum ? [Re: ogopogo] #1533371
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I dont think this trailer queen will ever see over 4000 rpm anyway unless the next owner actually drives it.I can use the comp 292 in the engine Im building for my challenger (4 speed car w 4:10's)





The OP stated this is a resto car so ET at the track may not be his main consideration.

My point exactly

Re: why would a stock street hemi have only 5in vacuum ? [Re: dvw] #1533372
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A quick update,I just broke in the new cam and the car is running fantastic,its a whole different car now.Idles nice with a slight lope and its making 12in vacuum at idle.
I did install the cam 4 deg advanced(at 103), and the moral of the story is dont install a comp 292 cam,4 degrees retarded,in your bone stock,auto trans,3:23 geared hemi car!
Thanks to everyone who helped me out!

Re: why would a stock street hemi have only 5in vacuum ? [Re: ogopogo] #1533373
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Isn't it amazing the differences a small change like that can make How bad do the rear tires spin now


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Re: why would a stock street hemi have only 5in vacuum ? [Re: ogopogo] #1533374
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A quick update,I just broke in the new cam and the car is running fantastic,its a whole different car now.Idles nice with a slight lope and its making 12in vacuum at idle.
I did install the cam 4 deg advanced(at 103), and the moral of the story is dont install a comp 292 cam,4 degrees retarded,in your bone stock,auto trans,3:23 geared hemi car!
Thanks to everyone who helped me out!




AND THAT FOLKS IS HOW HEMI'S BECOME DUDS

Re: why would a stock street hemi have only 5in vacuum ? [Re: ogopogo] #1533375
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Glad you sorted it Dean.

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Re: why would a stock street hemi have only 5in vacuum ? [Re: RUNCHARGER] #1533376
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A quick update,I just broke in the new cam and the car is running fantastic,its a whole different car now.Idles nice with a slight lope and its making 12in vacuum at idle.
I did install the cam 4 deg advanced(at 103), and the moral of the story is dont install a comp 292 cam,4 degrees retarded,in your bone stock,auto trans,3:23 geared hemi car!
Thanks to everyone who helped me out!




Great news!

Re: why would a stock street hemi have only 5in vacuum ? [Re: Cab_Burge] #1533377
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Isn't it amazing the differences a small change like that can make How bad do the rear tires spin now


It's far from a SMALL change but NOT unexpected.

Re: why would a stock street hemi have only 5in vacuum ? [Re: ogopogo] #1533378
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A quick update,I just broke in the new cam and the car is running fantastic,its a whole different car now.Idles nice with a slight lope and its making 12in vacuum at idle.
I did install the cam 4 deg advanced(at 103), and the moral of the story is dont install a comp 292 cam,4 degrees retarded,in your bone stock,auto trans,3:23 geared hemi car!
Thanks to everyone who helped me out!




I'm sure the cam timing was suggested to check... but
was it degreed when you installed the cam(I dont recall)
or was it the timing pointer was moved... which shouldnt
have changed the cam timing but would have on spark
timing.... anyways.... glad you found your lost
power and vac

Re: why would a stock street hemi have only 5in vacuum ? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1533379
12/03/13 09:34 PM
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How bad do the rear tires spin now




Cmon Cab,this is an all #s matching low mile restored 71 hemi car,it is much too rare valuable etc etc to be spinning the tires.it is for static display use only !!
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Re: why would a stock street hemi have only 5in vacuum ? [Re: ogopogo] #1533380
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I spent several hours today driving the car and it runs great,really a treat to drive an auto trans car,I cant remember the last time I owned one its been so long.To my knowledge this is the first time since 1971/72 this car has been driven, at all..it was taken off the road sometime in 71 or 72.

Re: why would a stock street hemi have only 5in vacuum ? [Re: ogopogo] #1533381
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How bad do the rear tires spin now




Cmon Cab,this is an all #s matching low mile restored 71 hemi car,it is much too rare valuable etc etc to be spinning the tires.it is for static display use only !!
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Re: why would a stock street hemi have only 5in vacuum ? [Re: cudaman1969] #1533382
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Ha ha,dont need the snow tires yet but it is getting chilly here now!
these motors LOVE cold air!

Re: why would a stock street hemi have only 5in vacuum ? [Re: ogopogo] #1533383
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Ha ha,dont need the snow tires yet but it is getting chilly here now!
these motors LOVE cold air!


Dat be true Thats one of the reason I dyno test in the winter, cold and dry with high B.P.


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Re: why would a stock street hemi have only 5in vacuum ? [Re: ogopogo] #1533384
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Ha ha,dont need the snow tires yet but it is getting chilly here now!
these motors LOVE cold air!



Chilly??? Looks like snow on the ground now lol.

Re: why would a stock street hemi have only 5in vacuum ? [Re: ogopogo] #1533385
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How bad do the rear tires spin now




Cmon Cab,this is an all #s matching low mile restored 71 hemi car,it is much too rare valuable etc etc to be spinning the tires.it is for static display use only !!
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Please tell me you washed all that salt off after the drive??? You can see it on the road.

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