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tire movement on rim #1498541 09/08/13 09:03 PM 09/08/13 09:03 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az Crizila OP master
Crizila OP master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	Got a new pair of 15X10 Convo pros that I really do not want to put screws in to. Unfortunately, this weekend I noticed about a 2" - 3" movement ( 6 runs) between the wheels and the rims. I run tubes in my Hoosier Quick Time Pros. Car seems to work best at around 12 psi. Any other solutions out there to keep this from happening - without using screws / bead locks ? Fastest 300

Re: tire movement on rim [Re: Crizila] #1498542 09/08/13 09:06 PM 09/08/13 09:06 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa 1967dartgt master
1967dartgt master Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa	Glue them to the rims Brett Miller W9 cnc'd heads STR Chassis fabraction

Re: tire movement on rim [Re: Crizila] #1498543 09/08/13 09:07 PM 09/08/13 09:07 PM
Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,460 Sydney,Australia tex013 top fuel
tex013 top fuel Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,460 Sydney,Australia	glue the tyre to the rim , I use high tack gasket sealant . that is the most common way to deal with tyre movement Tex New best ET 10.259@129.65 . New best MPH 130.32 Finally fitted a solid cam, stepped it up a bit more 3690lbs through the mufflers New World block 3780lbs 10.278@130.80 . Wowser 10.253@130.24 footbraking from 1500rpm Power by Tex's Automotive

Re: tire movement on rim [Re: Crizila] #1498544 09/09/13 03:42 AM 09/09/13 03:42 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,129 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,129 Bend,OR USA	I don't like using tubes in any of my drag race tires,no screws either Your committed so trying rotating the tires side to side and watch the movement. I inflate my new tires to between 25 and 30 lbs to seat them on the rims and let them sit overnight before using them at the lower pressures needed for racing They still move some, both the radials and bias plys The tire moving with the tube is a big No No your taking a chance on ripping the stem out of the tube Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: tire movement on rim [Re: Crizila] #1498545 09/09/13 10:57 AM 09/09/13 10:57 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,039 Benton, IL. D DaveRS23 Special needs idiot
DaveRS23 Special needs idiot D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,039 Benton, IL.	I have had a couple of different tire/rim combos that the tire moved several inches each racing day. It concerned me at first, but it never presented a problem. So I ran them that way. Is there a real risk as long as there aren't tubes? Master, again and still

Re: tire movement on rim [Re: Cab_Burge] #1498546 09/09/13 11:06 AM 09/09/13 11:06 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az Crizila OP master
Crizila OP master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	Quote: I don't like using tubes in any of my drag race tires,no screws either Your committed so trying rotating the tires side to side and watch the movement. I inflate my new tires to between 25 and 30 lbs to seat them on the rims and let them sit overnight before using them at the lower pressures needed for racing They still move some, both the radials and bias plys The tire moving with the tube is a big No No your taking a chance on ripping the stem out of the tube 10-4 on the tire movement with tubes Cab. I would prefer to run tubes. Think I will try the glue trick and rotate side to side more often. Movement in pic is about 6 runs. 7845151-tiremovement.jpg (88 downloads) Fastest 300

Re: tire movement on rim [Re: Crizila] #1498547 09/09/13 11:28 AM 09/09/13 11:28 AM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,166 PA. pittsburghracer "Little"John
pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,166 PA.	When I bought my new wheels this year I spent a lot of time researching this as I didn't want to drill the wheels if I didn't have to !4 inch wide wheels, 14-32's slicks). I was told if I run tubes you MUST drill wheels or risk ripping valve stem out of the tube and wrecking the car. If running tube-less seal the sidewalls with dawn soap mixed with a little water. Clean tire bead with lacquer thinner, scuff inside wheel bead with red sanding pad and clean with lacquer thinner. install tire on rim and carefully brush "high-tac" sealer on bead. Inflate slick to 20-25 pounds or tire to 35-40 pounds and let sit for 24 hours if possible. Set pressure where desired and go racing. Mine have moved approximately 1/4 inch in 4 races. The shop that mounted mine took extreme care when mounting and I had very little clean-up but I did so with some brake cleaner sprayed on a rag. The way it looks I will never drill a set of wheels again. My 60 foots are in the 1.38 range. 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: tire movement on rim [Re: pittsburghracer] #1498548 09/09/13 11:51 AM 09/09/13 11:51 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az Crizila OP master
Crizila OP master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	Quote: When I bought my new wheels this year I spent a lot of time researching this as I didn't want to drill the wheels if I didn't have to !4 inch wide wheels, 14-32's slicks). I was told if I run tubes you MUST drill wheels or risk ripping valve stem out of the tube and wrecking the car. If running tube-less seal the sidewalls with dawn soap mixed with a little water. Clean tire bead with lacquer thinner, scuff inside wheel bead with red sanding pad and clean with lacquer thinner. install tire on rim and carefully brush "high-tac" sealer on bead. Inflate slick to 20-25 pounds or tire to 35-40 pounds and let sit for 24 hours if possible. Set pressure where desired and go racing. Mine have moved approximately 1/4 inch in 4 races. The shop that mounted mine took extreme care when mounting and I had very little clean-up but I did so with some brake cleaner sprayed on a rag. The way it looks I will never drill a set of wheels again. My 60 foots are in the 1.38 range. Thanks for all the good info!! Maybe I will pull the tubes and try gluing them . Fastest 300

Re: tire movement on rim [Re: Crizila] #1498549 09/09/13 12:50 PM 09/09/13 12:50 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,166 PA. pittsburghracer "Little"John
pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,166 PA.	Quote: Quote: When I bought my new wheels this year I spent a lot of time researching this as I didn't want to drill the wheels if I didn't have to !4 inch wide wheels, 14-32's slicks). I was told if I run tubes you MUST drill wheels or risk ripping valve stem out of the tube and wrecking the car. If running tube-less seal the sidewalls with dawn soap mixed with a little water. Clean tire bead with lacquer thinner, scuff inside wheel bead with red sanding pad and clean with lacquer thinner. install tire on rim and carefully brush "high-tac" sealer on bead. Inflate slick to 20-25 pounds or tire to 35-40 pounds and let sit for 24 hours if possible. Set pressure where desired and go racing. Mine have moved approximately 1/4 inch in 4 races. The shop that mounted mine took extreme care when mounting and I had very little clean-up but I did so with some brake cleaner sprayed on a rag. The way it looks I will never drill a set of wheels again. My 60 foots are in the 1.38 range. Thanks for all the good info!! Maybe I will pull the tubes and try gluing them . No problem. Better safe than sorry. 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: tire movement on rim [Re: pittsburghracer] #1498550 09/09/13 07:36 PM 09/09/13 07:36 PM
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 650 High Ridge MO. MOPARCHAS mopar
MOPARCHAS mopar Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 650 High Ridge MO.	Quote: Quote: Quote: When I bought my new wheels this year I spent a lot of time researching this as I didn't want to drill the wheels if I didn't have to !4 inch wide wheels, 14-32's slicks). I was told if I run tubes you MUST drill wheels or risk ripping valve stem out of the tube and wrecking the car. If running tube-less seal the sidewalls with dawn soap mixed with a little water. Clean tire bead with lacquer thinner, scuff inside wheel bead with red sanding pad and clean with lacquer thinner. install tire on rim and carefully brush "high-tac" sealer on bead. Inflate slick to 20-25 pounds or tire to 35-40 pounds and let sit for 24 hours if possible. Set pressure where desired and go racing. Mine have moved approximately 1/4 inch in 4 races. The shop that mounted mine took extreme care when mounting and I had very little clean-up but I did so with some brake cleaner sprayed on a rag. The way it looks I will never drill a set of wheels again. My 60 foots are in the 1.38 range. Thanks for all the good info!! Maybe I will pull the tubes and try gluing them . No problem. Better safe than sorry. I use the permatex HY Tack on mine and they have not moved at all works great 7845775-MEGAM2.jpg (39 downloads)

Re: tire movement on rim [Re: MOPARCHAS] #1498551 09/09/13 11:16 PM 09/09/13 11:16 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az Crizila OP master
Crizila OP master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	Pulled the tubes today and glued the tires to the rims with permatex "high-tac" as I had some in stock. we'll see what happens later this month. Tubes looked like new when I pulled them out. Fastest 300

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