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Yikes! Look at This Broken Wheel Stud #1489855
08/24/13 01:28 PM 08/24/13 01:28 PM
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Pulled front wheels to mount new frontrunners for this weekend, one stud was broken and the others are rusted! These are 5 years old.
Re: Yikes! Look at This Broken Wheel Stud [Re: cgall] #1489856
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The lugs are still chrome in the threads, they will clean up.
Re: Yikes! Look at This Broken Wheel Stud [Re: cgall] #1489857
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over torque?
Re: Yikes! Look at This Broken Wheel Stud [Re: cgall] #1489858
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Broken stud looks like it rusted thru. Ordered 10 ARP screw-in studs yesterday, but car is parked this weekend.
Re: Yikes! Look at This Broken Wheel Stud [Re: cgall] #1489859
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Hmmm...The good ole rust belt. Anti Seize is your friend. What were those torqued to? Cannot imagine it rusted through, more likely a crack was formed then rust took over. Did that break right at the flange? How tight are those studs in the hub??

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Re: Yikes! Look at This Broken Wheel Stud [Re: cgall] #1489860
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that looks like the work of an impact gun
Re: Yikes! Look at This Broken Wheel Stud [Re: Quicktree] #1489861
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I use impact to remove, but hand tighten and torque to 90 ft. lbs. The broken one came out without effort and the other 9 lugs came off with normal resistance. the other side is rusted just as bad.

I replaced my rear studs in 1997 and they still look brand new.
Re: Yikes! Look at This Broken Wheel Stud [Re: cgall] #1489862
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Al, the stud broke at the end of the shank of the lug, about 1/4" from the face of the hub. The jam nut is locktighted on, the hub is aluminum. Studs were still tight in hub.
Re: Yikes! Look at This Broken Wheel Stud [Re: cgall] #1489863
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aluminum and steel don't like each other,be sure and put never seize on new studs to keep rust away.i just put new wheel studs on my faster car just for peace of mind,12 years of high ten second passes probably didn't hurt them.

Re: Yikes! Look at This Broken Wheel Stud [Re: sam64] #1489864
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you must use stainless fastening devices when working with aluminum (or aluminum) as stated regular steel and aluminum dont mix. corrosion starts to happen almost immediately.

Re: Yikes! Look at This Broken Wheel Stud [Re: cgall] #1489865
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Pulled front wheels to mount new frontrunners for this weekend, one stud was broken and the others are rusted! These are 5 years old.






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Re: Yikes! Look at This Broken Wheel Stud [Re: Thumperdart] #1489866
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Wow! my 01 pickup doesn't have that much rust on the hubs!! ....what thump said!!


corrosion at the point of disimilar metals...
Re: Yikes! Look at This Broken Wheel Stud [Re: J_BODY] #1489867
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I always put just a little oil on my studs anytime my wheels are off.
Re: Yikes! Look at This Broken Wheel Stud [Re: 72swgnr] #1489868
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you must use stainless fastening devices when working with aluminum (or aluminum) as stated regular steel and aluminum dont mix. corrosion starts to happen almost immediately.



That is a common very wrong misconception. Actually SS and alum have a greater corrosion potential, mainly of the alum.

To Op, a single sheared stud like pictured is likely only caused by being defective or previously partly over tighten, and time/fatigue/corrosion finished the task, or operated when tight and all the others are loose.

Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: Yikes! Look at This Broken Wheel Stud [Re: jcc] #1489869
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I think this is from bad steel! I have driven old Mopars thru some of the hardest winters in Ohio and have never seen anything like this. Studs should be heat treated and the black oxide should prevent surface rust for a lifetime, even when installed in an aluminum hub.
Re: Yikes! Look at This Broken Wheel Stud [Re: cgall] #1489870
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lucky you found this before anything major happened. unlike a racer at our track who had this mishap. unbelievable photography.
Re: Yikes! Look at This Broken Wheel Stud [Re: rebel] #1489871
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Great, now we need lug nut tethers.

Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: Yikes! Look at This Broken Wheel Stud [Re: jcc] #1489872
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Great, now we need lug nut tethers.



I can't believe you beat me to that....

Re: Yikes! Look at This Broken Wheel Stud [Re: cgall] #1489873
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I had a set of those break in 10 street miles. The company that sold the axles quickly replaced them claiming poor heat treat. The replacements never were a problem but my thinking is the design is poor at best. All axles I order I ask for a press in stud. My studs were not rusty like yours and I always use lube on the threads but have been told not to do so. I'd guess(only that) your lug nut seized on install and when you hit it to remove it the stud broke.
Re: Yikes! Look at This Broken Wheel Stud [Re: cgall] #1489874
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I think this is from bad steel! I have driven old Mopars thru some of the hardest winters in Ohio and have never seen anything like this. Studs should be heat treated and the black oxide should prevent surface rust for a lifetime, even when installed in an aluminum hub.



Yup, replace them all

I've heard stories of rusted nuts on this site before, but never believed it till now.

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