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Hardware Restoration Services
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07/23/13 09:52 PM
07/23/13 09:52 PM
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Can anyone recommend someone to strip and re-plate body bolts and other fasteners for a full restoration? What do most folks do for a full blown "nut and bolt" restoration job? I have hardware to spare and would like to take care of this early in the process. Also, anyone use Mike Mancini for dash restoration, or other smaller stuff? Thanks Ed 
Last edited by Q5_Ed; 07/23/13 09:54 PM.
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Re: Hardware Restoration Services
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07/24/13 10:21 AM
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Bill do you refinish All mounting hardware like fender and trunk bolts,washers, clips, things that will be painted over?
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Re: Hardware Restoration Services
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#1472901
07/24/13 03:53 PM
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Bill do you refinish All mounting hardware like fender and trunk bolts,washers, clips, things that will be painted over?
No, just a good cleaning,,,,usually just a soaking in evaporust or maybe a light trip thru the glass bead cabinet,,,, then paint - primer - color coat. Been thinking about picking a tumbler for just this kind of stuff. It's not cost effective to spend hours cleaning hardware at the glass bead cabinet.
I will only replate if it's is something thats not painted over after installation.
Even then somethings I don't worry about 2 much at all..... the red zinc wiper pivot nuts as an example. They just get cleaned and re-used as is. As once the dash and heater box is in the car they can't be seen .
I am a dealer for AMK so I can usually replace a big portion of body fasteners with new on most of it for less than few hours cleaning the stuff.
The problem becomes just how anal you really want to get when it comes to fastners head markings. I don't ---- nor have I had any customer requests in building that kind of car.
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Re: Hardware Restoration Services
[Re: Mr D21]
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07/24/13 05:19 PM
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Good info thank you all. I have alot of hardware in good condition, so I hate to toss away. Have some repop stuff, some original I'd like to save and re-use. The painted stuff especially.
Kind of have an interest in the whole fastener ID thing just as a side hobby. Bought the fastener book Wise put out. Not that my car is going to be concours, just like some of this for fun.
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Re: Hardware Restoration Services
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07/24/13 11:52 PM
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Not that my car is going to be concours,
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Re: Hardware Restoration Services
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#1472905
07/25/13 08:12 AM
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Kind of have an interest in the whole fastener ID thing just as a side hobby. Bought the fastener book Wise put out. Not that my car is going to be concours, just like some of this for fun.
Ed,
I am the same way. If I'm going to put a bolt into something I would like it to be the correct one.
I have no interest to build concurs level cars. But I want mine / my customers stuff as close as I can to the casual observer,,within a reasonable effort on my part.
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Re: Hardware Restoration Services
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#1472906
07/25/13 09:27 AM
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Kind of have an interest in the whole fastener ID thing just as a side hobby. Bought the fastener book Wise put out. Not that my car is going to be concours, just like some of this for fun.
Ed,
I am the same way. If I'm going to put a bolt into something I would like it to be the correct one.
I have no interest to build concurs level cars. But I want mine / my customers stuff as close as I can to the casual observer,,within a reasonable effort on my part.
I suppose buying the fastener book could help with getting fasteners back where they belong, since my car was in relatively complete condition and parked in 1978 I kept everything in detailed zip lock bags ( was just easier for me).
My solution was to do all my own plating, its really not that hard and horribly convenient, this way I can't confuse myself with what goes where. This way when I find a bolt or two that has been forgotten (maybe left on a sub assembly) its easy to plate, and after my car is finished it will be easy to clean up anything that starts to look a bit worn for whatever reason.
It takes a little effort to start but worth the effort in the long run, with the following you can replicate almost every finish and know when your finished you have a good protective layer against corrosion as well as a great base for painted items.
Zinc Phosphate - got it from Brownells
Electro Deposited Zinc - with or without brighteners, yellow chromate, clear blue chromate, OD chromate and Black chromate, all available from Caswell.
My hat is off to those of you who can remove every nut and bolt, send them to a plater and manage to get them back whaere they belong, I just couldn't get my hands around that process and knew I'd increase my frustration.
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Re: Hardware Restoration Services
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#1472909
07/26/13 12:43 PM
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Mike did my Dash and gauges on my 71 Duster 340. It turned out great. Seemed to have great customer service. I would use them again. I restored my own dash frame using his paint. See Ya!
Me too, but for a Charger. Highly recommend him.
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Re: Hardware Restoration Services
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07/30/13 08:45 PM
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Before tossing all of your fasteners in a bucket to get plated, take the time to document each one. I take a pic of each, along with markings on the head, with a Ziploc bag with the description written clearly on it. I also weigh each fastner on a digital scale and log it in my note book. It does take time, but when you get everything back it will be much easier to sort things out.
You will also have to separate which fastners will be zinc clear, black and yellow (gold) as they will barrel tumble each separately.
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Re: Hardware Restoration Services
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#1472911
07/31/13 01:26 AM
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Before tossing all of your fasteners in a bucket to get plated, take the time to document each one. I take a pic of each, along with markings on the head, with a Ziploc bag with the description written clearly on it. I also weigh each fastner on a digital scale and log it in my note book. It does take time, but when you get everything back it will be much easier to sort things out.
You will also have to separate which fastners will be zinc clear, black and yellow (gold) as they will barrel tumble each separately.
I mostly did the same as this, except I didn't take photos - I listed all my fasteners with all attributes (kind of fastener, threads/in, length, finish, maker's mark, etc.) in a spreadsheet with reference to the AMK catalog part numbers, all of which do have photos. Every fastener belongs to a component which has its own assigned ID number (1 up), and the ID number was written on a 3 x 5 card with my disassembly notes and placed in a zip lock bag. I can find any fastener or component in a few seconds by looking in my component spreadsheet for the ID number, then going to my zip lock bag trays which are copy paper box lids. I can also pull all fasteners and components with the same finish - phosphated; zinc plated with blue, yellow rainbow, black, green, or brown chromate; body color painted; engine color painted; etc. And, after each finish is applied, I can identify each fastener and get it back into the right zip lock bag.
I prefer to do the zinc plating, chromating, and phosphating myself, since there are always some fasteners that didn't get done with the first batch.
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