Slow me down!?!?
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05/02/13 01:20 PM
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Will launching the car in second gear (or third) hurt the transmission?
I’m trying to slow the car down about a second for a few races to run in sportsman (12.0 and slower dial)…my car runs 10.80’s normally. I can add enough weight to the car to make it run a between 10.95 and 11.00, so this is my thought to get that last second:
Launch the car in second gear (~0.4 seconds)…or possibly launch in 3rd (not sure what that would do). Remove the carburetor's secondary linkage so it can’t open (~0.3 seconds). Retard timing 7 degrees to 27° total (~0.3 seconds).
So, do the times for each suggestion sound about right for slowing the car down? Does this sound like it would work, and will any of this possibly hurt the motor or trans (this is my MAIN concern)???
Any help, or previous experience with trying any of these is appreciated, thanks!
67 Barracuda street car, 408, e85, 1.38 60', 6.44 @105.9 in the 1/8 mile, 10.19 @130.5 in the 1/4...so far....
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Re: Slow me down!?!?
[Re: FlyFish]
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05/02/13 01:45 PM
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I use this… http://www.etgenie.com/It’s a little expensive. But it is easily adjustable and capable of constantly being fine-tuned to hit whatever number. I need to slow my car down from 10.9 to 11.5 (no roll bar) and it works fine for me. There is another place that makes changeable restrictor plates that is cheaper.
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Re: Slow me down!?!?
[Re: FlyFish]
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05/02/13 02:38 PM
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We use a Moroso throttle stop,if its on a holley carburator.about $30
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Re: Slow me down!?!?
[Re: Mopar-Al]
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Why cant you use a throttle limiter or a rev limiter? Seems easier. If you shift at 6k shift at 5k, instead of wide open, 3/4 throttle. Something like that
Yeah, I tried making a home made throttle stop for the carb....Long story, but the short version is FAIL.
My converter flashes to 5000 and I normally shift ~6200, shifting early doesn't do much (runs close to the same). My car runs 0.04 quicker in the 1/8 if I shift at 6500 instead of 6000. I guess I could try shifting at 5500 and see what that does. Going to hit a test-n-tune in the next week or 2 to get this sorted out.
67 Barracuda street car, 408, e85, 1.38 60', 6.44 @105.9 in the 1/8 mile, 10.19 @130.5 in the 1/4...so far....
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Re: Slow me down!?!?
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That ET Genie looks SWEET, but this is just for a few races so I don't want to drop a ton of money on anything.
67 Barracuda street car, 408, e85, 1.38 60', 6.44 @105.9 in the 1/8 mile, 10.19 @130.5 in the 1/4...so far....
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Re: Slow me down!?!?
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05/02/13 02:48 PM
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We use a Moroso throttle stop,if its on a holley carburator.about $30
Yeah, my home made version sucked big time, I might have to break down and buy one of these eventually. I'm hoping to be able to shave the second off the car with no money spent...but this is definitely a good plan B.
67 Barracuda street car, 408, e85, 1.38 60', 6.44 @105.9 in the 1/8 mile, 10.19 @130.5 in the 1/4...so far....
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Re: Slow me down!?!?
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05/02/13 03:39 PM
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Just tie an old FE Ford engine to the rear bumper, that should do the trick.
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Re: Slow me down!?!?
[Re: FlyFish]
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05/02/13 03:54 PM
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If you have a production throttle cable slide it forward so you only get part throttle.... this is what I made for my dom... I slow it down just over 1 second for the 10.0 stuff... plus I lower the launch rpm and the shift rpm
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Re: Slow me down!?!?
[Re: FlyFish]
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05/02/13 04:07 PM
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If you have a production throttle cable slide it forward so you only get part throttle.... this is what I made for my dom... I slow it down just over 1 second for the 10.0 stuff... plus I lower the launch rpm and the shift rpm
I tried moving my throttle cable a little over an inch a few weeks back...only slowed by 0.3 seconds for some weird reason.
You will be suprized at how little the throttle will be open to slow it 1 second... I'm at 1/3 throttle and launch at 3600 rpm and shift at 5600
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