Anyone know much about ceramic coating headers?
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I just had my TTI headers re-ceramic coated by local company who makes and sells headers. The issue is that the ceramic coating is falling off the upper tubes where they meet the heads. You can just rub your hands across the tubes and it flakes off. I paid extra to have them first shoot in silver and then in black as they required for dong the black finish. I just called them and the owner said it's due to my carburetor being getting far to rich and running to hot. I disagreed as #1 the header never did that with the factory coating and I just had it checked by the guy who tuned the carburetor last time and his meter showed it was not too rich running. I told them this but they still insist the header tubes are getting too hot and it's not their problem. So I think it is their fault somehow for maybe not putting the base coat of silver on first. Anyone have an experiences with this sort of thing? Just wanted to see if their explanation is truthful?
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Re: Anyone know much about ceramic coating headers?
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'Ceramic coating warranty voided in the event of an out-of-tune carburetor'...
Wow...
Really.....??? I can understand if the headers were glowing red from way over richened settings, but if that was true why didnt the original TTI coating fall off ater 10 years of use.
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Re: Anyone know much about ceramic coating headers?
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just had mine done by the same people, (i'm assuming).
i know my engine isn't too lean, so we'll see what happens. mine are silver though, not the second coating of black.
Yes let me know Mick how they hold up.
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Re: Anyone know much about ceramic coating headers?
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CAPS COATING, In Fresno Ca did mine and i love them. $275.00
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Re: Anyone know much about ceramic coating headers?
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I would assume if it was Real lean they could discolor but mine are open so no real threat there. If you want to talk to the people who did mine call them ask about warranty and details. CAPS BRITE HOT COATINGS FRESNO CA TOLL FREE # 877-647-2628 OR www.capsbhc.com
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Re: Anyone know much about ceramic coating headers?
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The headers wouldn't turn red from a rich condition. That is caused by running lean.
Yes you are right but I was repeating what i was told by the onwers of the company who did the coating process verbadum.
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Re: Anyone know much about ceramic coating headers?
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Can damage to the coatings be caused just during idling? How long does it take to do permanent damage if too rich/lean?
You can damage bright headers in less than a minute if fuel or timing are off far enough.....
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Re: Anyone know much about ceramic coating headers?
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while tuning an engine, yes, you can damage coatings, but remember, this is Stu's numbers matching original motor that's been in the car since the day it left the factory, and has already been previously tuned, by what sounds like, a wideband O2 sensor, so there's pretty much zero chance that his tune caused the coating to fail, unless he changed something else in/on the engine while the headers were off.
I'd be taking the headers TO the guy to show him how they failed--If all this was done over the phone, then he doesn't know what the failure looks like, but does know that off tune ups will damage the coating. If he continues to sing the same song about it being your fault because your tune is off, after he sees the headers in person, then cancel payment on your card, usually you have at least 90 days to do this, sometimes more if you get persuasive with the card company. If you paid by check/cash, then let him know you'll be letting everyone in the mid-pen area know how poor his quality of work is, and how lousy his customer service is after the fact.
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Re: Anyone know much about ceramic coating headers?
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i would just do them yourself and do them right http://www.eastwood.com/underhood-engine/exhaust-paints.htmlyou probably will not get your money back from the baddies even if you sue them. use the eastwood header paint it lasts like 10 years for many people. somewhere on their site they have a howto for restoring exhaust manifolds, some of the info there as to what products you can use could be adapted to doing your header project if they are rusty and rough
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Re: Anyone know much about ceramic coating headers?
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The coating is junk i got a set of hooker coated headers to prove it it even sent them back had them redone they got less then 50 miles on them no coating left
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