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8 lug converter modifition #1386154 02/12/13 03:32 PM 02/12/13 03:32 PM
Joined: May 2007 Posts: 279 Chicago land, IL dafixr OP enthusiast
dafixr OP enthusiast Joined: May 2007 Posts: 279 Chicago land, IL	Pic's of our newly modified converter w 8 lugs and 8 lug flex plate We were tearing the lugs off the converter with our 7.60 passes.

Re: 8 lug converter modifition [Re: dafixr] #1386155 02/12/13 03:45 PM 02/12/13 03:45 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,502 SOUTH JERSEY HEMIFRED master
HEMIFRED master Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,502 SOUTH JERSEY	I haven't used a 727 in years but is there any reason why studs are not to use studs and lock nuts on use lock wire??? home of the Sox and Martin Hemi Duster

Re: 8 lug converter modifition [Re: dafixr] #1386156 02/12/13 03:46 PM 02/12/13 03:46 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa 1967dartgt master
1967dartgt master Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa	Wow looks killer!! Brett Miller W9 cnc'd heads STR Chassis fabraction

Re: 8 lug converter modifition [Re: HEMIFRED] #1386157 02/12/13 03:51 PM 02/12/13 03:51 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: I haven't used a 727 in years but is there any reason why studs are not to use studs and lock nuts on use lock wire??? The clearance between the bolt head and block... even with bolts the head thickness is pretty thin for clearance... the welds on that conv look like they didnt penetrate at all(like the weld was sitting on the top of the metal... it could be the heat affected zone I'm looking at

Re: 8 lug converter modifition [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1386158 02/13/13 02:10 AM 02/13/13 02:10 AM
Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,379 MD Kevins493 top fuel
Kevins493 top fuel Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,379 MD	Can you post better pictures of where the weld broke? I'm also not seeing any evidence of penetration.

Re: 8 lug converter modifition [Re: Kevins493] #1386159 02/13/13 10:15 AM 02/13/13 10:15 AM
Joined: May 2007 Posts: 279 Chicago land, IL dafixr OP enthusiast
dafixr OP enthusiast Joined: May 2007 Posts: 279 Chicago land, IL	These were the only pictures we took before sending converter back. They changed the back plate and added the extra lugs no charge.

Re: 8 lug converter modifition [Re: dafixr] #1386160 02/13/13 11:51 AM 02/13/13 11:51 AM
Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,408 Ambridge, Pa. R rickraw top fuel
rickraw top fuel R Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,408 Ambridge, Pa.	as others stated, there isn't any weld penetration on the ring gear. poor weld job.

Re: 8 lug converter modifition [Re: dafixr] #1386161 02/13/13 01:15 PM 02/13/13 01:15 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,699 Newport, Mi Evil Spirit master
Evil Spirit master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,699 Newport, Mi	Wait till the bad weld police get ahold of this. After 5 years of bashing suspension parts, they were LONG overdue for a new target. Free advice and worth every penny... Factory trained Slinky rewinder.........

Re: 8 lug converter modifition [Re: Evil Spirit] #1386162 02/13/13 01:24 PM 02/13/13 01:24 PM
Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 168 Washington State, USA W Winchester 73 member
Winchester 73 member W Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 168 Washington State, USA	Quote: Wait till the bad weld police get ahold of this. After 5 years of bashing suspension parts, they were LONG overdue for a new target. i vil be informing ze veld police of zis immidiately

Re: 8 lug converter modifition [Re: Winchester 73] #1386163 02/13/13 02:00 PM 02/13/13 02:00 PM
Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 660 San Diego formula S mopar
formula S mopar Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 660 San Diego	Their is not enough weld on the bosses, I would find a reputable weld shop in your area and have them reweld it with more heat and a larger fillet and take your flexplate to use as a fixture for proper location 7586835-weld.jpg (47 downloads)

Re: 8 lug converter modifition [Re: formula S] #1386164 02/14/13 12:40 PM 02/14/13 12:40 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,376 D dogdays I Live Here
dogdays I Live Here D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,376	AMEN. This is why I hate MIG welders in the hands of the uninformed. It's so easy to make a really pretty weld that doesn't do anything. Years ago my cousin needed some college money so he took a job at a farm equipment manufacturer named Haybuster. He was raving about how easy it was to weld with a MIG. Beautiful weld every time. The kicker - training was like 5 minutes! Just think, from zero to pro welder in 5 minutes. Give me a stick anytime. R.

Re: 8 lug converter modifition [Re: dogdays] #1386165 02/14/13 12:53 PM 02/14/13 12:53 PM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 951 Temperance, MI P prochargedhemi super stock
prochargedhemi super stock P Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 951 Temperance, MI	those lugs sure look tig welded to me

Re: 8 lug converter modifition [Re: prochargedhemi] #1386166 02/14/13 12:57 PM 02/14/13 12:57 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: those lugs sure look tig welded to me I think they are tigged also... looks to be under cut with no penetration... at least his conv shop is taking care of him... thats good

Re: 8 lug converter modifition [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1386167 02/14/13 06:22 PM 02/14/13 06:22 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,376 D dogdays I Live Here
dogdays I Live Here D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,376	Yeah, yer right, not MIG welds. I guess I was waiting to go off on something today. But, no penetration regardless of what welds. R.

Re: 8 lug converter modifition [Re: dafixr] #1386168 02/15/13 01:38 PM 02/15/13 01:38 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 377 NW Indiana USA 727specialist enthusiast
727specialist enthusiast Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 377 NW Indiana USA	Looks good Shouldn't have any more problems with that. Keith

Re: 8 lug converter modifition [Re: 727specialist] #1386169 02/15/13 02:49 PM 02/15/13 02:49 PM
Joined: May 2007 Posts: 279 Chicago land, IL dafixr OP enthusiast
dafixr OP enthusiast Joined: May 2007 Posts: 279 Chicago land, IL	Keith, I was going to send you the pictures, glad you logged in. We will have to get the trans over to you, so you can see how your modification to the trans are working after 90 + passes hitting it with 500 NOS. And also so you can check out the 1.95 first set that we had made up. Engine is at LEGEND getting freshened up, had 1 bad valve and the new liners we had put in the bores 2 years ago were knocked around little, having over size pistons made up at Diamond Ordered new rear rims going to a bigger tire so we may have to keep a eye on the high gear clutches. JIM Last edited by dafixr; 02/15/13 02:55 PM.

Re: 8 lug converter modifition [Re: dafixr] #1386170 02/15/13 03:25 PM 02/15/13 03:25 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,875 communist bloc of new jersey J jamesc master
jamesc master J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,875 communist bloc of new jersey	imho the proper solution would have been to actually weld the four lugs as opposed to merely sticking them on. i hope the person that welded that converter got the chance to see it so they know it wasn't done anywhere near correct. did transmission specialties do the first converter that failed?

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