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1971 Vapor Retun Line #1363644 01/03/13 12:08 PM 01/03/13 12:08 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 374 Wisconsin Mopar_Mudder OP enthusiast
Mopar_Mudder OP enthusiast Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 374 Wisconsin	I got a complete gas line kit from Right Stuff Detailing for a 1971 Hemi Cuda. Has the supply line plus the two vapor lines. Everything is hooked up and fits good except for the hard vapor line the runs up along the passenger inner fender. From the pictures I have seen it looks like this line should run up about even with the top of the shock bolt. The line they supplied stops about 4" behind the shock bolt. Any idea what is correct? If it is wrong what is a good source for the correct one. Also what is the clamp that is suppose to hold the line on to the fender? Any dimensions of where that clamp gets screwed on would be great also. 1971 Hemi Cuda 2005 SRT-10 Regular Cab Flame Red. 12.771 @ 109.67<---TIME SLIP--Video

Re: 1971 Vapor Retun Line [Re: Mopar_Mudder] #1363645 01/03/13 04:05 PM 01/03/13 04:05 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio Challenger 1 Too Many Posts
Challenger 1 Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio	The vapor line is a 2 peice deal. The suppy and vapor get's clamped and screwed to the car. The hemi return line get's fasten to the other lines with small S clamps. Last edited by Challenger 1; 01/03/13 04:13 PM.

Re: 1971 Vapor Retun Line [Re: Challenger 1] #1363646 01/03/13 04:29 PM 01/03/13 04:29 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 374 Wisconsin Mopar_Mudder OP enthusiast
Mopar_Mudder OP enthusiast Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 374 Wisconsin	Quote: The vapor line is a 2 peice deal. The suppy and vapor get's clamped and screwed to the car. The hemi return line get's fasten to the other lines with small S clamps. See in this picture you posted how the end of the tube comes out directly above the top of the shock mount. Mine is way short of coming to that point. 1971 Hemi Cuda 2005 SRT-10 Regular Cab Flame Red. 12.771 @ 109.67<---TIME SLIP--Video

Re: 1971 Vapor Retun Line [Re: Mopar_Mudder] #1363647 01/03/13 04:43 PM 01/03/13 04:43 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,341 Crook County, ILL Mastershake340 master
Mastershake340 master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,341 Crook County, ILL	I remember we ran into some confusion when we were installing a new fuel tank and lines on my '71 V code Challenger a while back. We had began to install one line incorrectly and the vapor return line didn't seem to be ending up where we expected it, until we figured out the short piece went up from the frame along the inner fender and attached to a longer section coming from the fuel tank with a piece of rubber fuel line (the fact that we were installing the lines at about 3 in the morning might have had something to do with it!) I forget which of the companies I bought my set from, but they assured me it included all the clamps and clips I needed. What I found was missing from their line kit was the clip and bolt that installs in that indentation on the inner fender. If your car has the correct inner fender it should have the indentation with a hole for the bolt, where the clip goes. I searched around but didn't find anyone selling a reproduction of that clip and bolt. I ended up buying a used one from a Moparts member, cleaned it up and used it. I'm at work so I don't have my pictures showing that clip and bolt here to post right now.

Re: 1971 Vapor Retun Line [Re: Mastershake340] #1363648 01/03/13 04:48 PM 01/03/13 04:48 PM
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Mopar_Mudder OP enthusiast Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 374 Wisconsin	Quote: I remember we ran into some confusion when we were installing a new fuel tank and lines on my '71 V code Challenger a while back. We had began to install one line incorrectly and the vapor return line didn't seem to be ending up where we expected it, until we figured out the short piece went up from the frame along the inner fender and attached to a longer section coming from the fuel tank with a piece of rubber fuel line (the fact that we were installing the lines at about 3 in the morning might have had something to do with it!) I forget which of the companies I bought my set from, but they assured me it included all the clamps and clips I needed. What I found was missing from their line kit was the clip and bolt that goes in that indentation on the inner fender. I searched around but didn't find anyone selling a reproduction of that. I ended up buying a used one from a Moparts member, cleaned it up and used it. I'm at work so I don't have my pictures showing that clip and bolt here to post right now. Pictures of that clip and bolt would be great. Is their only one at the top or is their one at the bottom also. That short piece of line that goes from the frame up the fender is the one I am talking about. Mine seems to be way to short. It follows the fender and around the frame fine but doesn't come forward as far as it should. I will try and get a picture of it tomarrow. 1971 Hemi Cuda 2005 SRT-10 Regular Cab Flame Red. 12.771 @ 109.67<---TIME SLIP--Video

Re: 1971 Vapor Retun Line [Re: Mopar_Mudder] #1363649 01/03/13 04:56 PM 01/03/13 04:56 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,341 Crook County, ILL Mastershake340 master
Mastershake340 master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,341 Crook County, ILL	If no one else posts one first, I'll post a picture of mine this evening. I circled the area on Gary's picture where the clip and bolt I'm referring to are installed. There is another clipping tab for the line on the top of the frame and another on the firewall below the heater motor IIRC, but those are welded on the car body and not included in any of the fuel line kits. 7531580-MVC-475S.jpg (2747 downloads)

Re: 1971 Vapor Retun Line [Re: Mopar_Mudder] #1363650 01/03/13 05:21 PM 01/03/13 05:21 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio Challenger 1 Too Many Posts
Challenger 1 Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio	I installed hemi gas lines on my 74 this past summer and reused the original clamps, this is what they look like. I still have my originals from my 71 car, just was to lazy to clean them up and reuse them, wish I did and may reinstall them some day. I bead blasted these clean and painted them with Eastwoods "Tank Tone". I like that stuff... Last edited by Challenger 1; 01/03/13 09:12 PM.

Re: 1971 Vapor Retun Line [Re: Mastershake340] #1363651 01/03/13 05:22 PM 01/03/13 05:22 PM
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Mopar_Mudder OP enthusiast Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 374 Wisconsin	Quote: If no one else posts one first, I'll post a picture of mine this evening. I circled the area on Gary's picture where the clip and bolt I'm referring to are installed. There is another clipping tab for the line on the top of the frame and another on the firewall below the heater motor IIRC, but those are welded on the car body and not included in any of the fuel line kits. Yea I think my line is too short to even get to the circled area and put the clip on. Also looks like I am missing any tabs that would be on the frame or fire wall. Last edited by Mopar_Mudder; 01/03/13 05:26 PM. 1971 Hemi Cuda 2005 SRT-10 Regular Cab Flame Red. 12.771 @ 109.67<---TIME SLIP--Video

Re: 1971 Vapor Retun Line [Re: Mopar_Mudder] #1363652 01/03/13 06:54 PM 01/03/13 06:54 PM
Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 201 Waterford, MI J JAK enthusiast
JAK enthusiast J Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 201 Waterford, MI	Is the line supplied similar to this line? 7531706-IMG_0818.jpg (299 downloads)

Re: 1971 Vapor Retun Line [Re: JAK] #1363653 01/03/13 06:55 PM 01/03/13 06:55 PM
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JAK enthusiast J Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 201 Waterford, MI	another pic 7531708-IMG_0819.jpg (289 downloads)

Re: 1971 Vapor Retun Line [Re: Mopar_Mudder] #1363654 01/03/13 07:13 PM 01/03/13 07:13 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio Challenger 1 Too Many Posts
Challenger 1 Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio	Quote: Quote: The vapor line is a 2 peice deal. The suppy and vapor get's clamped and screwed to the car. The hemi return line get's fasten to the other lines with small S clamps. See in this picture you posted how the end of the tube comes out directly above the top of the shock mount. Mine is way short of coming to that point. Did you read where we said it was a 2 peice line? at least on a challenger. Sounds like your missiing the short peice?

Re: 1971 Vapor Retun Line [Re: Challenger 1] #1363655 01/03/13 07:30 PM 01/03/13 07:30 PM
Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 201 Waterford, MI J JAK enthusiast
JAK enthusiast J Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 201 Waterford, MI	This is the second line as directly under the firewall by the frame rail there is a flexible hose connection. This line also has the check valve in it where the flexible hose connects going to the breather cap. I have seen this also on a 1972 Satellite parts car. My challenger has a build date of 6-71.

Re: 1971 Vapor Retun Line [Re: JAK] #1363656 01/03/13 08:01 PM 01/03/13 08:01 PM
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Mopar_Mudder OP enthusiast Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 374 Wisconsin	Quote: This is the second line as directly under the firewall by the frame rail there is a flexible hose connection. This line also has the check valve in it where the flexible hose connects going to the breather cap. I have seen this also on a 1972 Satellite parts car. My challenger has a build date of 6-71. I have a picture of an original car and I don't see where it is a two piece line. It is one piece from the frame rail to up by the shock tower. 7531776-6203831-Picture008_2.jpg (274 downloads) 1971 Hemi Cuda 2005 SRT-10 Regular Cab Flame Red. 12.771 @ 109.67<---TIME SLIP--Video

Re: 1971 Vapor Retun Line [Re: JAK] #1363657 01/03/13 08:05 PM 01/03/13 08:05 PM
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Mopar_Mudder OP enthusiast Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 374 Wisconsin	Quote: Is the line supplied similar to this line? Nope it is not like that. The shape is all correct it is just not long enough it seems. 1971 Hemi Cuda 2005 SRT-10 Regular Cab Flame Red. 12.771 @ 109.67<---TIME SLIP--Video

Re: 1971 Vapor Retun Line [Re: Mopar_Mudder] #1363658 01/03/13 08:54 PM 01/03/13 08:54 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio Challenger 1 Too Many Posts
Challenger 1 Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio	You can't see it in that picture, it's down under right in front of the trans and tortion bar cross member. The red cap in this photo is where the connection is made. It's a 2 piece line.

Re: 1971 Vapor Retun Line [Re: Challenger 1] #1363659 01/03/13 09:04 PM 01/03/13 09:04 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio Challenger 1 Too Many Posts
Challenger 1 Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio	Fuel lines were the very first item I installed on my car, it don't get any easier than right now. lol Just finished pressure washing off all the buffing compound before assembly begins.

Re: 1971 Vapor Retun Line [Re: Challenger 1] #1363660 01/03/13 10:51 PM 01/03/13 10:51 PM
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71birdJ68 master 7 Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 4,452 Morristown Tn.	could I see a picture of the s clip and bolt that holds the line on the fender

Re: 1971 Vapor Retun Line [Re: Mopar_Mudder] #1363661 01/03/13 11:15 PM 01/03/13 11:15 PM
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moparmarks I Live Here Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 12,494 Western Colorado High Desert	Quote: Quote: This is the second line as directly under the firewall by the frame rail there is a flexible hose connection. This line also has the check valve in it where the flexible hose connects going to the breather cap. I have seen this also on a 1972 Satellite parts car. My challenger has a build date of 6-71. I have a picture of an original car and I don't see where it is a two piece line. It is one piece from the frame rail to up by the shock tower. By the frame rail is where the splice is. 71B and E share the same lines. I have some originals. 72 Satellite Sebring Plus 440, 72 Dart 5.9 4-spd, 68 Valiant, 73 W200, 78 D100 sb, 78 D200, 98 DAKOTA, . Moparmarks Parts & Restorations Desert Mopar Metal Grand Jct. CO 970-261-7039 http://moparmark.com/ motormangj@gmail.com

Re: 1971 Vapor Retun Line [Re: moparmarks] #1363662 01/03/13 11:47 PM 01/03/13 11:47 PM
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ek3 top fuel E Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,899 MYRTLE BEACH SOUTH CAROLINA	Not to hijack the thread but, what color is the car? ( code )what brand paint did you use ? looks really nice ! Last edited by ek3; 01/03/13 11:48 PM.

Re: 1971 Vapor Retun Line [Re: 71birdJ68] #1363663 01/04/13 12:06 AM 01/04/13 12:06 AM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio Challenger 1 Too Many Posts
Challenger 1 Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio	Quote: could I see a picture of the s clip and bolt that holds the line on the fender Not sure if the screw or clamp is original? I think the screw is because I put all the original screws back in after stripping and before painted the car. If your asking about my car, it's GY8 It's PPG color and would have to look at the can for more info. Thanks Last edited by Challenger 1; 01/04/13 08:48 AM.

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