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Re: Keisler SS 700
[Re: Convertible Bee]
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02/11/13 10:25 PM
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cross member, note how tight it is to the speedo hook up...
also the room around the rest of the trans...
electric plug at top is for neutral safety switch
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Re: Keisler SS 700
[Re: Convertible Bee]
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02/12/13 12:25 AM
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I have a question, is it possible to install the drag link on a 69 b body backwards?
you want the offset in the link/bar facing rearward towards the back of the car
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Re: Keisler SS 700
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02/12/13 02:43 AM
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here we go again ... Perfect fit ..
havent you people learned ??
Ya. Jamie Passon got nothin' to worry about.
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Re: Keisler SS 700
[Re: wegner426]
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02/12/13 09:22 PM
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How is the engine/trans angle? Is it correct or heading downhill to clear the body like the TKO's were? any more pictures from underneath that show the whole trans?
looking at the drag link on my b it there was no clearance to the oil pan, thus my question, thanks for the pic Dayclona...
the question tonight, to have steering or a speedo, having both without some modification to the unibody trans rail/support not looking good..,
with the trans bolted and the new cross member installed as the kit is intended the drag link is rubbing the oil pan...
with the tail of the trans lifted about 1" the drag link has about 3/16" of clearance, don't know if it will clear when turning, it's on ramps currently...
with tail lifted the speedo cable won't install without kinking it...
geometry? tipped a little, depends on how high you want to go, I could trim the speedo boss and go up 2" for the intended mount location... that would put the geometry very close to where the 727 out put was...
need to think about the speedo, steering issue, need to turn more than know how fast the ticket is going to bee... lol
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Re: Keisler SS 700
[Re: Convertible Bee]
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02/13/13 01:50 AM
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back of trans lifted 1"
Just my  , but I'd treat this install just like a TKO500/600: I'd install the factory manual floor hump, it'll offer more clearance, and air circulation, as OD's run hot in prolonged OD operation, I see that what was the rear shifter casting boss, is hitting the upper tunnel crossmember, I'd trim off the bosses side casting to get the tranny even higher to establish a proper driveline angle, you should have at least 3/4-1" clearance between the oil pan and center link, also trim off all the unnecessary tabs/flanges on the tranny case, IIRC Keisler offers a right angle speedo adapter for some applications,.... and in some mopar TKO500/600 applications, the Keisler transmission crossmember used, bolts to the rear/backside of the vehicles crossmember,relocating the crossmember rearward, and the rubber mount is extended forward, unlike the crossmember your using, which look more "factory style"...the B Body TKO500/600 transmissiom mount offers adequate speedo clearance, perhaps you may want to incorporate/modify one of those for your application?
I would recommend using an inclination meter to set your driveline angles...to avoid vibration issues
Mike
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Re: Keisler SS 700
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02/13/13 01:04 PM
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yeah....how much does this setup cost?
makes Jamie Passon's tranny, even at ~$4500 look like a good deal
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Re: Keisler SS 700
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02/13/13 02:31 PM
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yeah....how much does this setup cost?
makes Jamie Passon's tranny, even at ~$4500 look like a good deal
As long as you don't need 5th gear or reverse, the Passon OD tranny souds like a good deal   
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Re: Keisler SS 700
[Re: DAYCLONA]
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02/13/13 04:40 PM
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yeah....how much does this setup cost?
makes Jamie Passon's tranny, even at ~$4500 look like a good deal
As long as you don't need 5th gear or reverse, the Passon OD tranny souds like a good deal
What's this? 
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Re: Keisler SS 700
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02/13/13 07:13 PM
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yeah....how much does this setup cost?
makes Jamie Passon's tranny, even at ~$4500 look like a good deal
As long as you don't need 5th gear or reverse, the Passon OD tranny souds like a good deal
Mike,
BE CAREFUL! You are about ready to step over the line. Why do you have to bash our product the minute someone doesn't worship Keisler the way you do. I have not posted at all on the SS700 thread. The reason is because I have nothing constructive to bring to the table. I would rather stay out of it and remain professional than start the mudslinging. However, it appears that you chosen the other route.
Yes, we are working out a 5th / Reverse interlock issue that developed during prototyping. I didn't expect it to be a big deal, but it has been very challenging to overcome. However, I am pretty confident that we have it licked and are just waiting for final samples before pulling the trigger and ordering the first runs worth.
They say that the devil is in the details... Well, I agree that this is the case. However, when we release the unit for production, everyone, rest assured, you will be able to steer the car and tell how fast you are going! 
Hey, at least when we get an order for an A-833 4 speed, we don't send the customer a Ford Top Loader! 
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Re: Keisler SS 700
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02/13/13 09:11 PM
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Convertibee , what oil pan is that , almost looks like a modified dragster pan with the depth in the rear? Even though now that your driveline angle is screwed, typical for a NO HACK install with a Kiesler 5 speed, you could change your oil pan and get the clearance, a 402 or even the 6qt hemi pan isn't that deep in the rear ... [/quote ]
the camera angle is a bit off, the pan is a 402 knock off...
when the 727 was in, there was about 1/2 of clearance...
going to try to get a bit more lift on the tail, grind,
machine, whatever on the SS700. 1/2" to an 1"... this should put the geometry close to stock...
then, I hate to say, a bit of modifying to the crossmember mount for the speedo cable clearance...
Dayclona, the trans mount pictured is from keislers kit, also the speedo hole is in the center of the unibody trans mount, not allowing any room for a 90 adapter...
in the picture on the drive side, the speedo boss is the interference, I'll have to check where there's stock to remove and not...there is plenty of room around the trans in the stock tunnel, about an 1"
maybe this weekend, I'll try to do more...
Last edited by Convertible Bee; 02/13/13 09:30 PM.
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Re: Keisler SS 700
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02/14/13 10:24 AM
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Mike,
BE CAREFUL! You are about ready to step over the line. Why do you have to bash our product the minute someone doesn't worship Keisler the way you do. ...
However, when we release the unit for production...
Sounds like the big question is how many Passons have been released into customer hands -- sounds like hte answer is zero.
However, one only has to casually follow Keisler threads to see lots of customers have had issues to sort thru. That's to be expected in such a conversion - unless you market your product with phrases such as 'PerfectFit' and 'hassle-free installation'.
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i really hope he gets it worked out. i still want one.
