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Re: Anyone have pictures of SB Jesel belt drive?
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I can answer this. They don't offer anything to hook up a water pump. They don't even give you specific instructions for the kit they sold you for $1,400+. I designed my own and they will be finished soon. Maybe this is whay they don't sell many of these kits.
I will have pics soon as I am putting everything together right now.
By your statement you mean you are designing a water pump assembly for the belt drive or the belt drive WITH a water pump assembly? 
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Re: Anyone have pictures of SB Jesel belt drive?
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Water pump spacers, there was a pic in the motor plate thread.
Dave Weber at least designed a pair of water pump spacers etc to go with his belt drive. The big problem is the number of belt drives for a small block Mopar that Jesel sell, I imagine they don't see designing anything else as being viable. Unless I was doing it for my own engine, I don't think I would bother myself. It would be stock I would be sitting on for a considerable amount of time.
Alan Jones
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Re: Anyone have pictures of SB Jesel belt drive?
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Re: Anyone have pictures of SB Jesel belt drive?
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Re: Anyone have pictures of SB Jesel belt drive?
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06/13/12 12:50 AM
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I can answer this. They don't offer anything to hook up a water pump. They don't even give you specific instructions for the kit they sold you for $1,400+. I designed my own and they will be finished soon. Maybe this is whay they don't sell many of these kits.
I will have pics soon as I am putting everything together right now.
By your statement you mean you are designing a water pump assembly for the belt drive or the belt drive WITH a water pump assembly?
My prototype spacers will be blank (as for the water pump) since I use a radiator mounted pump. I am changing the parts to accept a front mounted water pump though. 
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Re: Anyone have pictures of SB Jesel belt drive?
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06/13/12 01:05 AM
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Jesel 2
Stewart,
That plate setup looks nice and well thought out. How would you adapt this setup to a motor plate that is installed into a vehicle that used a stock timing cover previously? Looks like the plate stacked on top of the Jesel cover won't get you 2.5". 
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Re: Anyone have pictures of SB Jesel belt drive?
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06/21/12 02:20 PM
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I can answer this. They don't offer anything to hook up a water pump. They don't even give you specific instructions for the kit they sold you for $1,400+. I designed my own and they will be finished soon. Maybe this is whay they don't sell many of these kits.
I will have pics soon as I am putting everything together right now.
As far as I can tell, an electric water pump bolts directly to the Jesel belt drive.
Are you trying to use a belt driven water pump with a Jesel belt drive?
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Re: Anyone have pictures of SB Jesel belt drive?
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06/21/12 03:31 PM
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I can answer this. They don't offer anything to hook up a water pump. They don't even give you specific instructions for the kit they sold you for $1,400+. I designed my own and they will be finished soon. Maybe this is whay they don't sell many of these kits.
I will have pics soon as I am putting everything together right now.
As far as I can tell, an electric water pump bolts directly to the Jesel belt drive.
Are you trying to use a belt driven water pump with a Jesel belt drive?
You are correct about being able to bolt a pump directly to the belt drive cover on a tall deck block. The problem is on a short deck block as the bolt just above the water inlet hole is not in the correct location to direct mount a pump. It is slightly lower so it fits into the block without breaking thru the deck surface. This is why everyone has to have adapters to put a pump on the short deck engines. Another issue occurs when the factory timing cover thickness is 2.50" and the Jesel cover is ~.82" and you need to make provisions for a motor plate that has frame tabs in the old location (factory timing cover). Most people going to a belt drive were probably not set up for one originally.
I was on vacation last week and have just now picked back up where I left off.
Lots of different configurations are possible and that doesn't help the problem and is probably a big reason that nobody makes these in any "standard" configuration as it won't be profitable.
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Re: Anyone have pictures of SB Jesel belt drive?
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06/21/12 03:54 PM
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Stewart, do know who sells the surrounding plate and pointer?
That looks to me to be a standard Jesel part number. CVR-32845. I don't think it is a surrounding plate, it is just one large machined block that Jesel builds for certain applications. As far as I know, you can call up Jesel and order that cover. It is listed in the catalog and has a price.
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Re: Anyone have pictures of SB Jesel belt drive?
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06/23/12 10:57 AM
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Do you have part # for this thanks Brett
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I found another solution so I did not follow up but this is a "R3" housing that Meziere has.
They said the measurements:
Left side C to C = 1.754
Right side C to C = 1.748 (probably both 1.75)
Lower holes C to C = 7.965
Upper holes C to C = 6.771
Bill
Sorry I don't they just sent the info I posted to me in an email. He (Don Meziere) said he did not know if it was for an R3 or R4 block. I have not seen it on their website.
I would just send them the photo and the specs and I bet that would be enough.
Bill
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