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Newer Mini Starter in an Older Car #1145475 12/27/11 10:44 PM 12/27/11 10:44 PM
Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,880 Out in Left Field, NY B bobs66440 OP top fuel
bobs66440 OP top fuel B Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,880 Out in Left Field, NY	I apologize if this has been posted a million times, but I couldn't find anything in the search. I have been reading that the Autozone starter PN17181 designed for the newer Dodge truck will work on my 440. Is there any modification needed to make it work? Any additional info I need to know? Thanks!

Re: Newer Mini Starter in an Older Car [Re: bobs66440] #1145476 12/27/11 10:54 PM 12/27/11 10:54 PM
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 143 Crofton, MD B bri440 member
bri440 member B Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 143 Crofton, MD	I installed one on my 440. Had to remove a little casting slag from the block for clearance, but no modifications to the starter. Little bit of a challenge wrestling it in with headers, but it bolts right in. Good Luck.

Re: Newer Mini Starter in an Older Car [Re: bri440] #1145477 12/27/11 10:57 PM 12/27/11 10:57 PM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,327 Glendale, AZ 6 69L78Nova Banned. Forever.
69L78Nova Banned. Forever. 6 Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,327 Glendale, AZ	If you can stand the way they sound, get one for an early-mid 90s Dakota/Ram with a 318 1969 Nova 454/M21/3.31 Mild mid-11 second weekend cruiser 1994 F150 XLT Super Cab 2WD 5.0/4R70W/3.55 (Daily driver)

Re: Newer Mini Starter in an Older Car [Re: 69L78Nova] #1145478 12/27/11 11:12 PM 12/27/11 11:12 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 616 TP Exit 7, NJ, USA DANA60 mopar
DANA60 mopar Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 616 TP Exit 7, NJ, USA	I've used that exact one for years. and some of the aftermarket ones have a "extension" bolted on the terminals. Remove that. 6987496-IMG_3511.jpg (128 downloads)

Re: Newer Mini Starter in an Older Car [Re: DANA60] #1145479 12/27/11 11:22 PM 12/27/11 11:22 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,929 Grand Prairie,Texas stumpy I Win
stumpy I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,929 Grand Prairie,Texas	http://www.moparts.org/Tech/Archive/elec/1.html

Re: Newer Mini Starter in an Older Car [Re: bobs66440] #1145480 12/27/11 11:32 PM 12/27/11 11:32 PM
Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 68 Earth tubedriver member
tubedriver member Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 68 Earth	Just installed one on my 440. Remove the terminal extension block, and grind on the starter case for block clearance, just a bit! I and others have put a split hose between the stud on the starter and the block since it comes VERY close to the block. Make sure you hook up the wires before installing , you won't be able to once it is installed.

Re: Newer Mini Starter in an Older Car [Re: bobs66440] #1145481 12/27/11 11:32 PM 12/27/11 11:32 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Salvage is cheaper. Mine is out of an '88 or so Pickup.

Re: Newer Mini Starter in an Older Car #1145482 12/28/11 11:04 AM 12/28/11 11:04 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,968 Hampton, Ga. 7 70dart360 Green Meister
70dart360 Green Meister 7 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,968 Hampton, Ga.	Mines been on my Dart for 10 years, got it off a 90 or so truck. $20 from the pull a part. 70 Dart Swinger 72 D-100 440 shortbed 76 Pinto, 68k 21mpg!

Re: Newer Mini Starter in an Older Car [Re: bobs66440] #1145483 12/28/11 01:09 PM 12/28/11 01:09 PM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,826 NY usa 5 540challenger master
540challenger master 5 Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,826 NY usa	Yes they work well Like noted make sure that you don't need the small wire connentor of the car/truck. Not all aftermarket and factory starter have the removable terminal

Re: Newer Mini Starter in an Older Car #1145484 12/28/11 03:35 PM 12/28/11 03:35 PM
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,107 Spring Valley ,Ca. moparsquid super stock
moparsquid super stock Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,107 Spring Valley ,Ca.	Quote: Salvage is cheaper. Mine is out of an '88 or so Pickup. i used one from a smashed caravan for 25$ on my 500 strkr in a 62 dart and it works like new..

Re: Newer Mini Starter in an Older Car [Re: moparsquid] #1145485 12/28/11 04:21 PM 12/28/11 04:21 PM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 4,723 Florida BDW master
BDW master Joined: May 2005 Posts: 4,723 Florida	Contact this guy directly, picked up mine for $55. http://www.ebay.com/itm/MOPAR-MINI-START...=item27c1b51837

Re: Newer Mini Starter in an Older Car [Re: BDW] #1145486 12/28/11 07:00 PM 12/28/11 07:00 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 11,269 Slantytown DUFFMAN Ask And Ye Shall Receive
DUFFMAN Ask And Ye Shall Receive Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 11,269 Slantytown	My Dad bought a starter for a 1998 Ram 318/360 and installed it in his 1974 Charger with a 360. I wasn't there, but he said the installation was easy. It sounds a little odd, but works great with with his headers. No longer taking $h!t from anyone!

Re: Newer Mini Starter in an Older Car [Re: DUFFMAN] #1145487 12/28/11 07:18 PM 12/28/11 07:18 PM
Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,880 Out in Left Field, NY B bobs66440 OP top fuel
bobs66440 OP top fuel B Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,880 Out in Left Field, NY	If you have to take off the side terminals to make it fit, how is it wired?

Re: Newer Mini Starter in an Older Car [Re: bobs66440] #1145488 12/28/11 07:23 PM 12/28/11 07:23 PM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 21,822 Kirkland, Washington Pacnorthcuda Too Many Posts
Pacnorthcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 21,822 Kirkland, Washington	Quote: If you have to take off the side terminals to make it fit, how is it wired? Its sort of a terminal adapter--it mounts to existing terminals and basically just moves them. When you remove the adapter you expose terminals that you use.

Re: Newer Mini Starter in an Older Car [Re: bobs66440] #1145489 12/28/11 07:24 PM 12/28/11 07:24 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Two terminals are still there. Think of the piece that you take off as an "extension".

Re: Newer Mini Starter in an Older Car #1145490 12/28/11 11:49 PM 12/28/11 11:49 PM
Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,880 Out in Left Field, NY B bobs66440 OP top fuel
bobs66440 OP top fuel B Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,880 Out in Left Field, NY	Ok. I get it. Good, thanks!

Re: Newer Mini Starter in an Older Car [Re: bobs66440] #1145491 12/29/11 12:01 AM 12/29/11 12:01 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,929 Grand Prairie,Texas stumpy I Win
stumpy I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,929 Grand Prairie,Texas	Look at the tech archive link I posted above and you will see what you need to do. It has pictures with instructions.

Re: Newer Mini Starter in an Older Car [Re: stumpy] #1145492 12/29/11 12:05 AM 12/29/11 12:05 AM
Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,880 Out in Left Field, NY B bobs66440 OP top fuel
bobs66440 OP top fuel B Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,880 Out in Left Field, NY	I saw that, thanks. I just wasn't picturing it without the terminals, but now I see the other photo and I guess you end up with the two posts on the side.

Re: Newer Mini Starter in an Older Car [Re: bobs66440] #1145493 12/29/11 01:45 AM 12/29/11 01:45 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX roe master
roe master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	Follow the tips that people have mentioned before. I had to grind on the nose cone of my starter for the clearance. I love it. Also, I got mine from autozone for like $100 or so, but it comes with a lifetime warranty. Anywhere in the country, if it gives out on me, I just go to the nearest autozone and swap it out for free. I like that piece of mind. roe 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Re: Newer Mini Starter in an Older Car [Re: roe] #1145494 12/29/11 05:28 PM 12/29/11 05:28 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,186 Wherever I am. J Junky master
Junky master J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,186 Wherever I am.	Quote: Follow the tips that people have mentioned before. I had to grind on the nose cone of my starter for the clearance. I love it. Also, I got mine from autozone for like $100 or so, but it comes with a lifetime warranty. Anywhere in the country, if it gives out on me, I just go to the nearest autozone and swap it out for free. I like that piece of mind. roe I marched in to an Autozone and got one for a '92 Dakota 318. Took off the terminal extension and it bolted right up. Starts much faster. 2010 Black Challenger SE <> 3.5 V6 Custom Shift Knobs www.flameball.com Check It Out

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