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Re: How do YOU slow down YOUR car for index racing? [Re: ProSport] #1045083
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Mike do you have a pic of that mounted on the carb?(Pbody)




Bob... no I dont... I made it to fit my 1050 dom...
the pin fits into a hole in the base and then the other
end goes over the mounting stud... here is a pic of
the hole

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Re: How do YOU slow down YOUR car for index racing? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1045084
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Mike.. where did you get the bracket? and did it already have a hole for the threaded rod, or did you have to modify it?

Re: How do YOU slow down YOUR car for index racing? [Re: Jeepmon] #1045085
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Mike.. where did you get the bracket? and did it already have a hole for the threaded rod, or did you have to modify it?




I made the whole thing... a piece of flat stock that
I bent 90*, contoured it, welded a 1/4x20 nut to it at
the angle I needed and a piece of 1/4x20 threaded rod...
and a piece of round stock I had that fit the hole
that I welded on so its nice and stable
took all of about 1 1/2 hours from design to done
and working

Re: How do YOU slow down YOUR car for index racing? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1045086
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10.80s all out...11.60s with the secondaries disconnected and 300 lbs in the car. car varied about 4 hun on saturday

Re: How do YOU slow down YOUR car for index racing? [Re: whiskeyrunner] #1045087
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I think someone makes the same type bracket for stopping overcentering the butterflyshttp://store.jetracinginc.com/pr910-11550.html

For me when indexing racing I just run to a predetermine spot and lift...

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Re: How do YOU slow down YOUR car for index racing? [Re: nss guy] #1045088
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For me when indexing racing I just run to a predetermine spot and lift...




Thats what I'll do... Thanks for reminding me of this..

Re: How do YOU slow down YOUR car for index racing? [Re: Jeepmon] #1045089
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Re: How do YOU slow down YOUR car for index racing? [Re: nss guy] #1045090
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Spot drop....Someone is giving away secrets

Re: How do YOU slow down YOUR car for index racing? [Re: Al_Alguire] #1045091
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Re: How do YOU slow down YOUR car for index racing? [Re: Jeepmon] #1045092
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Blocking the secondaries will work (duh!), but its' a bit dangerous.
If the engine is big enough, the high vacuum in the primaries will shut the power valve.


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Re: How do YOU slow down YOUR car for index racing? [Re: polyspheric] #1045093
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Blocking the secondaries will work (duh!), but its' a bit dangerous.
If the engine is big enough, the high vacuum in the primaries will shut the power valve.





Might - but "Dangerous" - I doubt - you been hanging around too many attorneys!!!

The engine may lean down some - my experience doing this is you normally have to take the jets up by two and bring the timing back a little and watch your plugs. The advantage to taking out the secondaries is you get the full pump shot at launch versus running partial throttle against a stop

Re: How do YOU slow down YOUR car for index racing? [Re: DoubleD] #1045094
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The 2010 track champion at acto,cecil,and I think raceway park in 10.0 index runs with his secondarys disconnected. He takes off a half second by doing this and pulling timing.


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Re: How do YOU slow down YOUR car for index racing? [Re: DoubleD] #1045095
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Blocking the secondaries will work (duh!), but its' a bit dangerous.
If the engine is big enough, the high vacuum in the primaries will shut the power valve.





Might - but "Dangerous" - I doubt - you been hanging around too many attorneys!!!

The engine may lean down some - my experience doing this is you normally have to take the jets up by two and bring the timing back a little and watch your plugs. The advantage to taking out the secondaries is you get the full pump shot at launch versus running partial throttle against a stop




I never had any issue on the pump shot... its getting
2... 1/2 volume shots but takes in alot less air so
to me that was a wash

Re: How do YOU slow down YOUR car for index racing? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1045096
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I still say throw Jon in the trunk, maybe Wiley too. Then whomp away

Re: How do YOU slow down YOUR car for index racing? [Re: Al_Alguire] #1045097
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I still say throw Jon in the trunk, maybe Wiley too. Then whomp away




Wiley stopped coming out to the track with us...

Re: How do YOU slow down YOUR car for index racing? [Re: Jeepmon] #1045098
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Since we're on the subject.. how much timing can you pull out of the motor and still be safe?

Re: How do YOU slow down YOUR car for index racing? [Re: Jeepmon] #1045099
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We had the old Demon down to 20 degrees(from 36) trying to get it to run 9.90. Only issues I have ever had with getting to low is excessive heat, both water temp and from the pipes. Timing is one easy way to kill some ET. I still say whomp away.

Seriously you have weight for the car and a nice system to ad more. I think between adding some more weight and timing you can get close enough to race. Spot dropping is actually a VERY good idea IMO. Provided you have the time to test and find the right spot.

Re: How do YOU slow down YOUR car for index racing? [Re: Al_Alguire] #1045100
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Put a bum convertor in it.
Hp is king.

Re: How do YOU slow down YOUR car for index racing? [Re: RemCharger] #1045101
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