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How do YOU slow down YOUR car for index racing? #1045063
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For those of us without a throttle stop and massive electronics.. how do you slow down your car for index racing...??

I've heard of the wooden block and the adjustable bolt under the GO pedal... but what else is there that will maximize consistency and minimize driver error?

BTW.. we're talking approx 1/2 second

Re: How do YOU slow down YOUR car for index racing? [Re: Jeepmon] #1045064
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In Nostalgia Super Stock, where any type of electonic device is a big no-no, most guys add weight. A lot of the cars have lengths of round stock in the trunk, where they add weight in 10lb increments by using the weights off of a dumbell set. It's legal as long as it's secure.


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Re: How do YOU slow down YOUR car for index racing? [Re: Jeepmon] #1045065
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Try disconnecting the secondaries, my buddy does it to run 10.0 index.


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Re: How do YOU slow down YOUR car for index racing? [Re: Jeepmon] #1045066
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I slowed my car down 1 full second with 3 things...
1 is the mech throttle stop, 2 the launch RPM and
3 is the shift RPM... I made 8 passes within .008
total spread.... this is a pic of my stop that mounts
on the carb in a few seconds... I needed something
quick to change because I was running 2 classes

6757897-DSC00042.JPG (244 downloads)
Re: How do YOU slow down YOUR car for index racing? [Re: Jeepmon] #1045067
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I do index racing i run 6.0 heads up on a pro tree and i change the timing and jets in the carb and put weight in or out of the car and RPMS on the trans brake and on the shift but some put a bolt on the gas pedal and ajust but if you build your motor to the class it don`t take much to change the ET i hope this helps good luck.

Re: How do YOU slow down YOUR car for index racing? [Re: steeldust] #1045068
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What about starting out in 2nd gear?

Re: How do YOU slow down YOUR car for index racing? [Re: moparguy7074] #1045069
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When I raced the Challenger or RR in NO E index such as C gas I went with a adjustable bolt under the loud pedal, here is a bit more expensive method but I here the results arn't bad. This guy also races at Infineon....

http://www.restrictorplate.com/

Re: How do YOU slow down YOUR car for index racing? [Re: Jeepmon] #1045070
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Here's a well thought out product that I know of that several guys are running and very very happy with. Also several of the Heritage series guys are using it.
http://www.etgenie.com/

Re: How do YOU slow down YOUR car for index racing? [Re: Jeepmon] #1045071
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I have treid adding wieght, it does work , short shifting and trying to go from first to third, that works also, maybe not enough I have treid (that was worth 1/10 in the 1/4 ) moving the shift rpm from 6400 to 7000 in 1st and 2nd, removed the collectors, retarded the timing, smaller accelerator pump shot, a lot bigger squirter and added 50CC pumps Taller reear tires,lots of ways to slow the car down some of them unintentionally sometimes


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Re: How do YOU slow down YOUR car for index racing? [Re: Cab_Burge] #1045072
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With that throttle "limiter" I have it set at about
1/3 throttle and tweek the launch and shift RPM and
its dead on for running the 10.0 class.... with back
to back runs in the 10.002 to 10.008 in 8 straight runs
and that cost me all of about 3 bucks and my time

Re: How do YOU slow down YOUR car for index racing? [Re: Dart Racer] #1045073
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Here's a well thought out product that I know of that several guys are running and very very happy with. Also several of the Heritage series guys are using it.
http://www.etgenie.com/


Seems like that would do the trick.


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Re: How do YOU slow down YOUR car for index racing? [Re: Keith Richards] #1045074
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Quote:

When I raced the Challenger or RR in NO E index such as C gas I went with a adjustable bolt under the loud pedal, here is a bit more expensive method but I here the results arn't bad. This guy also races at Infineon....

http://www.restrictorplate.com/




That's what we're trying to get the Duster from 10.-teens to a 10.60, a 10.90 and 12.0's for Sportsman. We're close on the 10.60, but still working on the 12.0 deal. That said, Brett has been GREAT to work with and are almost always at the track with their 2 cars running 2 classes.

So far, I'm liking it, just have to swap some more plates with them to be dead on the numbers.

Re: How do YOU slow down YOUR car for index racing? [Re: Jeepmon] #1045075
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Use a mechanical stop of some sort. Buy a t stop and just use the adjustments to dial it in. Then when your ready to run in electronics you wont need to buy one. I know a guy with a spare. Or get one of those adjustable mechanical plate set ups. Guess it depends on what youjr trying to do. If you want to run S/ST in your car IMO just get a stop and good controller. If you are looking to run D/Gas sky is the limit, but IMO get a t stop and use it.

Re: How do YOU slow down YOUR car for index racing? [Re: cudadoug] #1045076
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Thanks guys for your input..

We're probably going to take the car out this weekend to run a 10.60 index, so I was just looking for ways to slow the car down for this race only.. After this weekend, we still have 3 more bracket races and (hopefully) the ET finals..

Next year, we'll probably bump up the horsepower and may even move up in class, but for the time being, I'm trying to keep it easy and simple..

Re: How do YOU slow down YOUR car for index racing? [Re: Jeepmon] #1045077
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Whomp Whomp Whomp

Or throw the kid in the truck and whomp

Re: How do YOU slow down YOUR car for index racing? [Re: Al_Alguire] #1045078
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Quote:


Or throw the kid in the truck and whomp




Yeah... thats one way to get the truck under 10... 10 mpg that is..

Re: How do YOU slow down YOUR car for index racing? [Re: Jeepmon] #1045079
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I forgot last night abot using a biiger or smaller carb. to change the ET My first Duster ran high 11s with a 600 D.P. on a TM7 intake and ran low 11s with a M1 4500 intake with a 1050 Dominator at Plamdale in the summer Do you have a 600 vacume secondary carb or a Carter or Edlbrock 600?


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Put a big block in it, thats the fix.

Re: How do YOU slow down YOUR car for index racing? [Re: Jeepmon] #1045081
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Quote:

Thanks guys for your input..

We're probably going to take the car out this weekend to run a 10.60 index, so I was just looking for ways to slow the car down for this race only.. After this weekend, we still have 3 more bracket races and (hopefully) the ET finals..

Next year, we'll probably bump up the horsepower and may even move up in class, but for the time being, I'm trying to keep it easy and simple..




Thats why I made the stop that I did... I wanted
simple and cost effective(CHEAP).... it would be
a cold day in hell that I would pay $350 to do the
same thing I did for $3.00... close the throttle
blades on the carb or put a restrictor under the carb...
same thing

Re: How do YOU slow down YOUR car for index racing? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1045082
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Mike do you have a pic of that mounted on the carb?(Pbody)


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