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Re: Warning for racing rigs in Pa.
[Re: jcc]
#102985
08/11/08 11:34 PM
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Fort Wayne, IN
moparatheart
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Wow, so here we have a cc comming up in Norwalk, and looks like we will lose money from the cc 131 rain date per the cc letter we received today!!! Now since I know that DOT is strict in OH, your saying there is a great possibility of getting pulled over, huge fine, possible impound.  ......just cause it rained in MI and being forced to race or lose my moola!! PS What is this world comming to???
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Re: Warning for racing rigs in Pa.
[Re: moparatheart]
#102986
08/11/08 11:39 PM
08/11/08 11:39 PM
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Romeo MI
MR_P_BODY
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Wow, so here we have a cc comming up in Norwalk, and looks like we will lose money from the cc 131 rain date per the cc letter we received today!!! Now since I know that DOT is strict in OH, your saying there is a great possibility of getting pulled over, huge fine, possible impound. ......just cause it rained in MI and being forced to race or lose my moola!!
PS What is this world comming to???
I go to Norwalk quite a bit and never been bothered
in Ohio
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Re: Warning for racing rigs in Pa.
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
#102987
08/11/08 11:41 PM
08/11/08 11:41 PM
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S.E. South Dakota !
bigdad
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S.E. South Dakota !
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Come and get me Cop'per !!!
The lips of fools bring them strife, and their mouths invite a beating.Proverbs 18:6
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Re: Warning for racing rigs in Pa.
[Re: bigdad]
#102988
08/12/08 05:47 AM
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VA
69 Road Runner
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My motorhome is over 26,000 pounds, and Virginia does not require a CDL for motorhomes. Reciprocity laws require other states to accept that part.
Now other states can enforce the law that says your registration card says you can't haul over X GCVW.
69 Road Runner Vert
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Re: Warning for racing rigs in Pa.
[Re: aarlucas]
#102989
08/12/08 06:56 AM
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Posts: 21,065
Niles , Ohio
therocks
oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
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oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
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Pa needs $$$$$$.Just like thier toll on Interstate 80.They want to tax eceryone so they can rebuild Philly.Its going to cost billions.Its kinda like Calif anymore.Too bad its not on a fault line and near the ocean so it can drop into the sea someday.Rocky
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Re: Warning for racing rigs in Pa.
[Re: therocks]
#102990
08/12/08 08:11 AM
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Charleston, SC
SCDaytona
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Since CT won't let me register my Dodge 2500 over the truck rated GVW, how can I abide by Pa. laws? The next question I have is, I am planning to race in Virginia at VMP in late Sept. I will be driving through NY, NJ, Delaware,Maryland, Washington DC, and then Virginia using I-95, so do I have anything to worry about?
Last edited by SCDaytona; 08/12/08 08:11 AM.
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Re: Warning for racing rigs in Pa.
[Re: SCDaytona]
#102991
08/12/08 08:16 AM
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Greenville, South Carolina
BBLM23
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So my NY registration goes against PA's interpretation:
NYSDMV.com:
Gross Vehicle Weight/Combination Ratings
The Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR) or Gross Combination Weight Rating (GCWR) of a commercial motor vehicle is established by a manufacturer or qualified rebuilder or alterer of a single motor vehicle when new. The GVWR is placed on a required placard located on the vehicle's left door frame or door. This GVWR represents the weight rating for the unloaded vehicle, plus the maximum load and/or 150 lbs for each passenger the vehicle was designed to carry. This is important because the manufacturer has designed the vehicle to have the power and structural integrity to carry the load and the braking performance to stop the loaded vehicle.
GVWR/GCWR are not used to determine weights on titles and registrations. However, the GVWR or GCWR of a commercial motor vehicle, not the registered MGW, is used to determine the class of driver license required to operate the vehicle. Therefore, amending the MGW on a commercial motor vehicle registration does not affect the type of license a driver needs in order to legally operate it.
Walter
1969 Dart Swinger w/ARC Pump Gas 493 B1/BS 10.18 at 130mph
Racing Pro in street trim.
1981 Aries ARC 548 B1 8.88 at 147mph (footbraking)
1996 Ram 2500 V10 16.52 at 80mph
1981 Reliant 400
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Re: Warning for racing rigs in Pa.
[Re: B G Racing]
#102993
08/12/08 08:39 AM
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Mid Michigan
Mr. Smurf
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Mid Michigan
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Maybe this is already in the thread, didn't read it all...... Y'all probably need a usdot number too. They are being real jerks about it here in Mi. Do I need a DOT numberEd
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Re: Warning for racing rigs in Pa.
[Re: Mr. Smurf]
#102994
08/12/08 08:44 AM
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Posts: 9,225
Charleston
sixpackgut
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Charleston
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In South Carolina, they dont even tag or register trailers
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Re: Warning for racing rigs in Pa.
[Re: SCDaytona]
#102995
08/12/08 09:01 AM
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VA
69 Road Runner
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Since CT won't let me register my Dodge 2500 over the truck rated GVW, how can I abide by Pa. laws? The next question I have is, I am planning to race in Virginia at VMP in late Sept. I will be driving through NY, NJ, Delaware,Maryland, Washington DC, and then Virginia using I-95, so do I have anything to worry about?
Any of them could potentially get you for being overweight if you're over the GVWR or GCVWR.
69 Road Runner Vert
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Re: Warning for racing rigs in Pa.
[Re: 69 Road Runner]
#102997
08/12/08 09:45 AM
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Lehigh Acres, Florida
rickstershemi
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There are only a couple of states that don't have reciprocity regarding DMV. So if your legal in your state your legal in theirs. But have ammunition to prove it  (the above is second hand info...so  but sounds feasable) Pennsylvania and North Carolina both have reciprocity. Rickster
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Re: Warning for racing rigs in Pa.
[Re: sixpackgut]
#102999
08/12/08 10:30 AM
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Marion, SC USA
69RR383
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In South Carolina, they dont even tag or register trailers
Does this mean we can't pull our trailers in Pa? I f this is the case, then perhaps we shouldn't recognize Pa plates on anything--this is a big can of worms if states get in a pi$$ing contest over things like this--don't think it is the case as Chip and I have pulled his car to Columbus across several states a number of times with no problems. I thought all states had reciprocity 
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Re: Warning for racing rigs in Pa.
[Re: GomangoCuda]
#103000
08/12/08 10:37 AM
08/12/08 10:37 AM
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Romeo MI
MR_P_BODY
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I just read this whole thread and man do I have a headache.   
Driving the car to the track is starting to look better and better.  
The problem with this is... what if you break a axle
or blow a rearend. Pretty much the other stuff doesnt
matter TOO MUCH, you can flat tow it but thats hard
to do with a broken axle or diff
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Re: Warning for racing rigs in Pa.
[Re: 69RR383]
#103001
08/12/08 10:39 AM
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VA
69 Road Runner
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There's reciprocity, and then there's reciprocity. Some states like OH may let you drive a rusted out pile of junk, but others won't. MD only requires that you get the car inspected when you buy it, and never again. Some states require a non-CDL Class A license for a big motorhome like mine. VA doesn't have non-CDL Class A licenses, so it's impossible for me to get one. VA says a standard license is all I need. Then there are states like NY that call a half ton pickup a commercial vehicle even if it's just a privately owned commuter vehicle not used for commercial purposes. NY just changed the definition of commercial without contacting Websters. 
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Re: Warning for racing rigs in Pa.
[Re: max_maniac]
#103003
08/12/08 11:15 AM
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Eighty Four, PA
B G Racing
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According to Pa.Dot it doesn't matter wether your private,commercial,or other wize,you must be regestered for your Gross combination weight if you pull a licenced trailer and the combination weight exceedes the gross weight of your tow vehicle.IE: if you have a truck that has a GVW of 10,000lbs and are towing a trailer with the laden weight of i0,000lbs you should register yourtruck for a GCVW of 20,000lbs,Rembember also any trailer over 10,001lbs or any truck or truck and trailer exceeding 26,001lbs requires a CDL licence and a health card.  Also you must have a statement from the mfg as to the max combo towing weight.IE: My Dodge 3500 is 12,200GVW with a max towing GCVW of 23,000.I can't register my truck any higher unless it is modified and certified to do so.It is all based on axles,tire contact patch,braking capabilities,and structual design.
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