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Re: Lets hear your stupid fast 440 combo's [Re: The Sphinx] #1029753
07/12/11 09:47 PM
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Post them up, I'm looking to get 10.90's in a 3000 LBS car




TRW 2355's, Six pack rods
Engle solid grind 280 at .050 112 lca .624 lift
Home Ported 516 Heads 2.14 and 1.81 valves
1050 Dominator, Holley Street Dominator Intake
4500 stall converter 727
4.30 gear 28x10 MT's
3300# raceweight Roadrunner

10.72 at 123mph in the Las Vegas desert heat.

Re: Lets hear your stupid fast 440 combo's [Re: fishy340] #1029754
07/12/11 10:19 PM
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Post them up, I'm looking to get 10.90's in a 3000 LBS car



Calm down small block guys we still like younz.
Now back to the original poster. It doesn't take a lot of work to build a 440 to run 10.90's in a 3000# car. 30 years ago before we had all the go fast products that are available now. I used this combo to run 9.80 in a 74 duster that weighted 2900# with me in the seat.
2900# total weight
.030 over 440 with TRW forged dome pistons
Stock rods (direct conection bolts, shot peened, polished beems)
stock forged crank
750 comp cams roller cam
Weiand tunnelram with two 750 holley carbs (76 jets summer-78 jets fall)
4:56 rear gear
727 trans
14-31-15 goodyears
superstock springs (001-002)

Pretty simple build but with the parts available now its crazy not to use a set of h-beem rods and an after market crank. Or you could go with a 4.150 crank and really blow those small blocks away.


or u could go with a 340 block 40 over,10.5 compression,4" crank,750 hp carb,255/255 @50 588 lift FLAT TAPPET bullit cam..in a 3200lb dart sport with 3500 stall conv,and do 10.80's and street drive to the beach


So, does`your car go 10.80`s or is that a different car?


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Re: Lets hear your stupid fast 440 combo's [Re: fishy340] #1029755
07/12/11 10:26 PM
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Post them up, I'm looking to get 10.90's in a 3000 LBS car



Calm down small block guys we still like younz.
Now back to the original poster. It doesn't take a lot of work to build a 440 to run 10.90's in a 3000# car. 30 years ago before we had all the go fast products that are available now. I used this combo to run 9.80 in a 74 duster that weighted 2900# with me in the seat.
2900# total weight
.030 over 440 with TRW forged dome pistons
Stock rods (direct conection bolts, shot peened, polished beems)
stock forged crank
750 comp cams roller cam
Weiand tunnelram with two 750 holley carbs (76 jets summer-78 jets fall)
4:56 rear gear
727 trans
14-31-15 goodyears
superstock springs (001-002)
I forgot to add: 906 heads and a J convertor.
Pretty simple build but with the parts available now its crazy not to use a set of h-beem rods and an after market crank. Or you could go with a 4.150 crank and really blow those small blocks away.


or u could go with a 340 block 40 over,10.5 compression,4" crank,750 hp carb,255/255 @50 588 lift FLAT TAPPET bullit cam..in a 3200lb dart sport with 3500 stall conv,and do 10.80's and street drive to the beach




10.80's with a 416 CI. Heck the kids (whiskyrunner)duster weights 3300# went 10.83 two weeks ago. .030 over 360 with a stock crank and thru the exhaust. Same engine ran 10.20's last year at 2500# on 93 octane. With a 520 lift solid cam.

Last edited by pittsburghracer; 07/12/11 10:31 PM.

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Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: Lets hear your stupid fast 440 combo's [Re: pittsburghracer] #1029756
07/12/11 10:31 PM
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Post them up, I'm looking to get 10.90's in a 3000 LBS car



Calm down small block guys we still like younz.
Now back to the original poster. It doesn't take a lot of work to build a 440 to run 10.90's in a 3000# car. 30 years ago before we had all the go fast products that are available now. I used this combo to run 9.80 in a 74 duster that weighted 2900# with me in the seat.
2900# total weight
.030 over 440 with TRW forged dome pistons
Stock rods (direct conection bolts, shot peened, polished beems)
stock forged crank
750 comp cams roller cam
Weiand tunnelram with two 750 holley carbs (76 jets summer-78 jets fall)
4:56 rear gear
727 trans
14-31-15 goodyears
superstock springs (001-002)

Pretty simple build but with the parts available now its crazy not to use a set of h-beem rods and an after market crank. Or you could go with a 4.150 crank and really blow those small blocks away.


or u could go with a 340 block 40 over,10.5 compression,4" crank,750 hp carb,255/255 @50 588 lift FLAT TAPPET bullit cam..in a 3200lb dart sport with 3500 stall conv,and do 10.80's and street drive to the beach




10.80's with a 416 CI. Heck the kids (whiskyrunner)duster weights 3300# went 10.83 two weeks ago. .030 over 360 with a stock crank and thru the exhaust. Same engine ran 10.20's last year at 2500# on 93 octane. With a 520 lift solid cam.


SWEET....nice running car for sure.


72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....
Re: Lets hear your stupid fast 440 combo's [Re: Thumperdart] #1029757
07/12/11 11:50 PM
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i cant wait to meet this 1967dartgt guy

Re: Lets hear your stupid fast 440 combo's [Re: whiskeyrunner] #1029758
07/12/11 11:54 PM
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i cant wait to meet this 1967dartgt guy




Why? What you want to see? In chicago for work should I swing in on the ride home? Your duster wants some? Let me know...


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Re: Lets hear your stupid fast 440 combo's [Re: 1967dartgt] #1029759
07/12/11 11:57 PM
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let me know when you have enough knowledge to build your own motor and not have a well known small block build a motor for your car. it really only worth bragging about if you built it yourself.

Re: Lets hear your stupid fast 440 combo's [Re: whiskeyrunner] #1029760
07/13/11 12:01 AM
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My 380 inch motor I put together in my shop, with the batten w-2s it went 9.56 at 136. So can I go beat on my chest now?


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Re: Lets hear your stupid fast 440 combo's [Re: 1967dartgt] #1029761
07/13/11 12:05 AM
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congratulations

Re: Lets hear your stupid fast 440 combo's [Re: whiskeyrunner] #1029762
07/13/11 12:25 AM
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So, you two gonna race or what?

Re: Lets hear your stupid fast 440 combo's [Re: The Sphinx] #1029763
07/13/11 03:33 AM
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why not smallblock?




I thought about it but I already have the 440 and the fenderwell exit headers.


At least with a 440 all you need is a cam.
360 combos with stock crank and heads are not nearly as promising, not saying impossible, but you need to be a household name to build one. then again pushing around a 2800 lb car +driver, isn't really pushing any envelopes either.

Re: Lets hear your stupid fast 440 combo's [Re: RemCharger] #1029764
07/13/11 07:18 AM
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3300 lb 73 cuda 30 over 440 2295's stock rods and crank ported 906s flowed 260 at 600 lift, 590 cam [what else] compression was about 11.5 to one 8 inch trubo action 3800. 456 dana super stocks
ran best of 10.84 mostly would run 10.90s 11.00s motor ran for 7 years !!! untouched we could show up at the track ready for 1st round no time runs and dial it in by the air quality best bracket car this was in 1984-1991


606 hemi pump gas best 9.60 at 142mph on motor
05 hemi daytona 1500 go-mango 4wd quadcab
2007 hotrod mag pump gas drags runner up, roadkill nights dodge big tire winner 2018 2019 back to back
Re: Lets hear your stupid fast 440 combo's [Re: 572charger] #1029765
07/13/11 07:59 AM
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This motor is no longer with us, once the crank broke on the rod journals it was all over but it had a lot of runs on it. It was a .055" over stoke stroke 440 with Venolia domed pistons, BME aluminum rods, .640 solid roller, EZ-1 cnc ported Indy heads, Indy intake, QF 950 on 110 octane. TTI 2" headers, 727, 3360lbs on the footbrake would run 9.70's in decent air and 9.80's the rest of the time.


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Re: Lets hear your stupid fast 440 combo's [Re: Jacob Pitt] #1029766
07/13/11 08:32 AM
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"Stupid Fast 440's"....... That was a long time ago..

So long, that I really can't remember..

If I did, it would probably be faster now than it really was..

Aren't they always..



Chris..

Re: Lets hear your stupid fast 440 combo's [Re: sam64] #1029767
07/13/11 12:40 PM
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i'm guessing that 420 is at the back tire,not flywheel hp.



yep. and that's average, not peak.


for what is the good life if not doing things thoughtfully?
Re: Lets hear your stupid fast 440 combo's [Re: maximum entropy] #1029768
07/13/11 05:55 PM
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Not stupid fast but stooopid consistent and stooopid reliable!

440 original block (.060 over) with steel caps over stock main caps
original iron crank
12.5/1 J&E pistons
Eagle rods
610 Comp (roller) Cam
1963 Factory Max Wedge intake w/ 2 Edelbrock 750
Repop iron Maxwedge heads w/a light massage by Beachy Engines in Kokomo, IN

Coan 8" converter with low gear A&A Torqueflite

8 3/4 with Moser spool and 4:56 gears

Goodyear 10.5 X 30 tires

3400lbs + driver (170-200 lbs)
Foot Brake to 10.70's or 10.80's all day long!
Best 10.69 at 126

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Re: Lets hear your stupid fast 440 combo's [Re: pittsburghracer] #1029769
07/14/11 01:28 AM
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why not smallblock?




Because small blocks are for girls and old people.




Wrong answer, small blocks are only for smart people

Re: Lets hear your stupid fast 440 combo's [Re: cbarracuda] #1029770
07/14/11 12:40 PM
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Most of these small blocks, are really BIG blocks 440-10.7 comp--640 lift-stock 84cc elldy heads-10 inch3200 stall-3.55 gear=10.55----- 300 hp of spray= GRAB A LANE street driven daily.

Re: Lets hear your stupid fast 440 combo's [Re: dragram440] #1029771
07/14/11 05:18 PM
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Is this about 440 builds or smallblock vs bigblock ? Ron




The Small block guys always have to throw in their and ruin everyones fun. Read the thread title and move on, just like I do when I see a small block under the hood of a Mopar.

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Kinda like when I see a big block at the track that slow I laugh and walk on by!!


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Re: Lets hear your stupid fast 440 combo's [Re: 1967dartgt] #1029772
07/14/11 05:30 PM
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Is this about 440 builds or smallblock vs bigblock ? Ron




The Small block guys always have to throw in their and ruin everyones fun. Read the thread title and move on, just like I do when I see a small block under the hood of a Mopar.

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Kinda like when I see a big block at the track that slow I laugh and walk on by!!




for every slow BB mopar there's 10 SB. Lets see a mighty 340 (stock stroke heck I'll even give you 418) w/ iron heads run 10's in a 3600-4000 b-body. For every one SB I'll show you 10 BB. Oh wait NOOOBODY would run a 340 base motor in a B-body

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