Posted By: The Sphinx
Lets hear your stupid fast 440 combo's - 07/11/11 01:39 AM
Post them up, I'm looking to get 10.90's in a 3000 LBS car
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Post them up, I'm looking to get 10.90's in a 3000 LBS car
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why not smallblock?
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piece of cake. 11/1 compression, .000 deck flat tops, mild port on iron heads, mopar 590 cam, 750 to 850 on a single plane intake, 2 x 36 to 42 x 3 1/2 collecter headers. OOTB eddies ( have em checked for tight guides, good valve job etc) will push you to mid to low tens with the 850 and 590 cam.
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why not smallblock?
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why not smallblock?
Because small blocks are for girls and old people.
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why not smallblock?
Quote:i agree my 418ci eddy was faster than all the 440's posted here and that was 3200lb pumpgas,,,i dont wanna tell u how much faster my 440ci sb is compared to the others
why not smallblock?
Quote:Quote:i agree my 418ci eddy was faster than all the 440's posted here and that was 3200lb pumpgas,,,i dont wanna tell u how much faster my 440ci sb is compared to the others
why not smallblock?
Quote:Quote:i agree my 418ci eddy was faster than all the 440's posted here and that was 3200lb pumpgas,,,i dont wanna tell u how much faster my 440ci sb is compared to the others
why not smallblock?
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Post them up, I'm looking to get 10.90's in a 3000 LBS car
Quote:So you could do it with detuned stock 426 ?
A mild 440 with a decent cam, .640 and a little port
work on the heads with a decent converter should do
it easy
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all it takes is about 420 HP
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A mild 440 with a decent cam, .640 and a little port
work on the heads with a decent converter should do
it easy
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all it takes is about 420 HP
Quote:Quote:So you could do it with detuned stock 426 ?
A mild 440 with a decent cam, .640 and a little port
work on the heads with a decent converter should do
it easy
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all it takes is about 420 HP
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why not smallblock?
Because small blocks are for girls and old people.
Quote:What parameters do you want followed as far as the block, crankshaft, heads, compression, type of gasoline and so on Lots of ways to get things done, some are cheaper than otherrs
Post them up, I'm looking to get 10.90's in a 3000 LBS car
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why not smallblock?
Because small blocks are for girls and old people.
Next time I am in pittsburgh I bring my pumpgas smallblock street car and we can run for a little money motor to motor.
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You name the road and its on...
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Not stupid fast by any stretch, but
446 stock forged crank
8.3:1 compression
230/236 @ .050 hydro stick
Mildly cleaned up Eddys
2" TTI`s
EFI
4000 PTC vert
3.54 gear
275 M/T radial
93 pump gas
race weight 4130
10.56 at 127 and change
Oh...I forgot, 12 PSI of boost
Rick
Quote:yea i love when a guy spends 12.000$ on a set of predator heads,in a tube chassis car that weighs 2500lbs and does 8.30's u got an 8.30 car? bring it to etown and watch how many people will race u with small blocks...ps i dont believe u have an 8.30 car either..lolQuote:
You name the road and its on...
Road???? What the heck are you talking about? What are we going to talk about next. NOS. I love when a guy builds a small block at about 10 times the cost of a big block and still has to add a power adder. My engines are built by ME in MY garage with off the shelf parts.
Quote:Quote:yea i love when a guy spends 12.000$ on a set of predator heads,in a tube chassis car that weighs 2500lbs and does 8.30's u got an 8.30 car? bring it to etown and watch how many people will race u with small blocks...ps i dont believe u have an 8.30 car either..lolQuote:
You name the road and its on...
Road???? What the heck are you talking about? What are we going to talk about next. NOS. I love when a guy builds a small block at about 10 times the cost of a big block and still has to add a power adder. My engines are built by ME in MY garage with off the shelf parts.
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You name the road and its on...
Road???? What the heck are you talking about? What are we going to talk about next. NOS. I love when a guy builds a small block at about 10 times the cost of a big block and still has to add a power adder. My engines are built by ME in MY garage with off the shelf parts.
Quote:Quote:Quote:yea i love when a guy spends 12.000$ on a set of predator heads,in a tube chassis car that weighs 2500lbs and does 8.30's u got an 8.30 car? bring it to etown and watch how many people will race u with small blocks...ps i dont believe u have an 8.30 car either..lolQuote:
You name the road and its on...
Road???? What the heck are you talking about? What are we going to talk about next. NOS. I love when a guy builds a small block at about 10 times the cost of a big block and still has to add a power adder. My engines are built by ME in MY garage with off the shelf parts.
My point. You can make a 340 or any SB run it will just cost you a butt load of money. And forget about using one in a 3800 lb B-body. You can run 10's in a heavy b-body w/ a stock stroke 440 w/ good off the shelf heads, small roller or 600ish solid cam, 4000 stall and 4.56's.
Small blocks are fine and yeah they can be fast but at what cost? If you are building a bracket car and looking for 10.90's and don't have a deep wallet I'd think the best route to go is w/ a BB. The guy isn't talking about running 8's spinning his junk to 7500. He wants a weekend beater. Shoot I'd bet w/ a decent tune you could get a 440 into the 10's w/ an old school 509 and iron heads.
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You name the road and its on...
Road???? What the heck are you talking about? What are we going to talk about next. NOS. I love when a guy builds a small block at about 10 times the cost of a big block and still has to add a power adder. My engines are built by ME in MY garage with off the shelf parts.
What you want to [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean] now? Didn't think your duster was that fast or we going to race the wrecked daytona? Oh and if its not on the street I am going to bring the small block dragster if you want to run race cars.
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You name the road and its on...
Road???? What the heck are you talking about? What are we going to talk about next. NOS. I love when a guy builds a small block at about 10 times the cost of a big block and still has to add a power adder. My engines are built by ME in MY garage with off the shelf parts.
What you want to [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean] now? Didn't think your duster was that fast or we going to race the wrecked daytona? Oh and if its not on the street I am going to bring the small block dragster if you want to run race cars.
If small blocks are so good why's everyone building strokers? Cubic inches not cubic dollars rule.
Quote:Quote:Quote:Quote:yea i love when a guy spends 12.000$ on a set of predator heads,in a tube chassis car that weighs 2500lbs and does 8.30's u got an 8.30 car? bring it to etown and watch how many people will race u with small blocks...ps i dont believe u have an 8.30 car either..lolQuote:
You name the road and its on...
Road???? What the heck are you talking about? What are we going to talk about next. NOS. I love when a guy builds a small block at about 10 times the cost of a big block and still has to add a power adder. My engines are built by ME in MY garage with off the shelf parts.
My point. You can make a 340 or any SB run it will just cost you a butt load of money. And forget about using one in a 3800 lb B-body. You can run 10's in a heavy b-body w/ a stock stroke 440 w/ good off the shelf heads, small roller or 600ish solid cam, 4000 stall and 4.56's.
Small blocks are fine and yeah they can be fast but at what cost? If you are building a bracket car and looking for 10.90's and don't have a deep wallet I'd think the best route to go is w/ a BB. The guy isn't talking about running 8's spinning his junk to 7500. He wants a weekend beater. Shoot I'd bet w/ a decent tune you could get a 440 into the 10's w/ an old school 509 and iron heads.
I used to have a 380 cu in 11.5 to 1 eddy headed stock block eagle rods that would go 10.70s on pump gas and 9.70s on c-12 and 200 shot.I didn't have alot of money in that setup. Got crank new closeout mopar 500, and got the eddys used 800. So I bought eagle rods and got the machine work done witch is pretty much the same big or small block.So I had about 4500 in whole motor to go 10.70s in a 3350 lb a body.
Quote:Quote:Quote:Quote:Quote:yea i love when a guy spends 12.000$ on a set of predator heads,in a tube chassis car that weighs 2500lbs and does 8.30's u got an 8.30 car? bring it to etown and watch how many people will race u with small blocks...ps i dont believe u have an 8.30 car either..lolQuote:
You name the road and its on...
Road???? What the heck are you talking about? What are we going to talk about next. NOS. I love when a guy builds a small block at about 10 times the cost of a big block and still has to add a power adder. My engines are built by ME in MY garage with off the shelf parts.
My point. You can make a 340 or any SB run it will just cost you a butt load of money. And forget about using one in a 3800 lb B-body. You can run 10's in a heavy b-body w/ a stock stroke 440 w/ good off the shelf heads, small roller or 600ish solid cam, 4000 stall and 4.56's.
Small blocks are fine and yeah they can be fast but at what cost? If you are building a bracket car and looking for 10.90's and don't have a deep wallet I'd think the best route to go is w/ a BB. The guy isn't talking about running 8's spinning his junk to 7500. He wants a weekend beater. Shoot I'd bet w/ a decent tune you could get a 440 into the 10's w/ an old school 509 and iron heads.
I used to have a 380 cu in 11.5 to 1 eddy headed stock block eagle rods that would go 10.70s on pump gas and 9.70s on c-12 and 200 shot.I didn't have alot of money in that setup. Got crank new closeout mopar 500, and got the eddys used 800. So I bought eagle rods and got the machine work done witch is pretty much the same big or small block.So I had about 4500 in whole motor to go 10.70s in a 3350 lb a body.
i sold those heads for $800. should have kept them though. had my hours cut in the dark hours of the bush era
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hey sphinx sorry of trashin ur thread...pitts if u have a car that sits anything like mine...i will be glad to show u how much a sissy car small blocks are...o yea my engines was about 3 grand total more than a set of predators!! big blocks arent bad...but if ur gonna build one (build it big and strong) cause its embarassing when a small block w tiny tires whoops ya
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Is this about 440 builds or smallblock vs bigblock ? Ron
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Mopar400 on what fuel? pump or race or what? thanks
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Anyone can beat 8.67 1/4 mile time and 156 mph with a 440+060 build and 3.75 stroke ?
I helped a good friend build a 440+060 a couple of years ago.
All parts for the short block was bought from Scott Brown, besides a crane cam and an Eagle 3.75 crank he already had.
Stock RB block+060, with Eagle 3.75 crank
Pistons Ross 13:1 custom
Rods K1 steel, stock length
Cam Crane superstock grind IR-276/4714-2S-12
int. 0.707(1.5) exh. 0.670(1.5), dur. 276 at .050
Heads Indy 440-1 mildly ported with manley severe duty 2.20
Carb custom 1250 dominator on a 440-1 intake.
/Tom
Quote:Your car appears to be scootin out pretty good...............if you don`t mind me askin, how fast were your times in that video?
hey sphinx sorry of trashin ur thread...pitts if u have a car that sits anything like mine...i will be glad to show u how much a sissy car small blocks are...o yea my engines was about 3 grand total more than a set of predators!! big blocks arent bad...but if ur gonna build one (build it big and strong) cause its embarassing when a small block w tiny tires whoops ya
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Post them up, I'm looking to get 10.90's in a 3000 LBS car
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Tom what was the weight and body.
Mick
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Post them up, I'm looking to get 10.90's in a 3000 LBS car
Quote:or u could go with a 340 block 40 over,10.5 compression,4" crank,750 hp carb,255/255 @50 588 lift FLAT TAPPET bullit cam..in a 3200lb dart sport with 3500 stall conv,and do 10.80's and street drive to the beachQuote:
Post them up, I'm looking to get 10.90's in a 3000 LBS car
Calm down small block guys we still like younz.
Now back to the original poster. It doesn't take a lot of work to build a 440 to run 10.90's in a 3000# car. 30 years ago before we had all the go fast products that are available now. I used this combo to run 9.80 in a 74 duster that weighted 2900# with me in the seat.
2900# total weight
.030 over 440 with TRW forged dome pistons
Stock rods (direct conection bolts, shot peened, polished beems)
stock forged crank
750 comp cams roller cam
Weiand tunnelram with two 750 holley carbs (76 jets summer-78 jets fall)
4:56 rear gear
727 trans
14-31-15 goodyears
superstock springs (001-002)
Pretty simple build but with the parts available now its crazy not to use a set of h-beem rods and an after market crank. Or you could go with a 4.150 crank and really blow those small blocks away.
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Post them up, I'm looking to get 10.90's in a 3000 LBS car
Quote:So, does`your car go 10.80`s or is that a different car?Quote:or u could go with a 340 block 40 over,10.5 compression,4" crank,750 hp carb,255/255 @50 588 lift FLAT TAPPET bullit cam..in a 3200lb dart sport with 3500 stall conv,and do 10.80's and street drive to the beachQuote:
Post them up, I'm looking to get 10.90's in a 3000 LBS car
Calm down small block guys we still like younz.
Now back to the original poster. It doesn't take a lot of work to build a 440 to run 10.90's in a 3000# car. 30 years ago before we had all the go fast products that are available now. I used this combo to run 9.80 in a 74 duster that weighted 2900# with me in the seat.
2900# total weight
.030 over 440 with TRW forged dome pistons
Stock rods (direct conection bolts, shot peened, polished beems)
stock forged crank
750 comp cams roller cam
Weiand tunnelram with two 750 holley carbs (76 jets summer-78 jets fall)
4:56 rear gear
727 trans
14-31-15 goodyears
superstock springs (001-002)
Pretty simple build but with the parts available now its crazy not to use a set of h-beem rods and an after market crank. Or you could go with a 4.150 crank and really blow those small blocks away.
Quote:Quote:or u could go with a 340 block 40 over,10.5 compression,4" crank,750 hp carb,255/255 @50 588 lift FLAT TAPPET bullit cam..in a 3200lb dart sport with 3500 stall conv,and do 10.80's and street drive to the beachQuote:
Post them up, I'm looking to get 10.90's in a 3000 LBS car
Calm down small block guys we still like younz.
Now back to the original poster. It doesn't take a lot of work to build a 440 to run 10.90's in a 3000# car. 30 years ago before we had all the go fast products that are available now. I used this combo to run 9.80 in a 74 duster that weighted 2900# with me in the seat.
2900# total weight
.030 over 440 with TRW forged dome pistons
Stock rods (direct conection bolts, shot peened, polished beems)
stock forged crank
750 comp cams roller cam
Weiand tunnelram with two 750 holley carbs (76 jets summer-78 jets fall)
4:56 rear gear
727 trans
14-31-15 goodyears
superstock springs (001-002)
I forgot to add: 906 heads and a J convertor.
Pretty simple build but with the parts available now its crazy not to use a set of h-beem rods and an after market crank. Or you could go with a 4.150 crank and really blow those small blocks away.
Quote:SWEET....nice running car for sure.Quote:Quote:or u could go with a 340 block 40 over,10.5 compression,4" crank,750 hp carb,255/255 @50 588 lift FLAT TAPPET bullit cam..in a 3200lb dart sport with 3500 stall conv,and do 10.80's and street drive to the beachQuote:
Post them up, I'm looking to get 10.90's in a 3000 LBS car
Calm down small block guys we still like younz.
Now back to the original poster. It doesn't take a lot of work to build a 440 to run 10.90's in a 3000# car. 30 years ago before we had all the go fast products that are available now. I used this combo to run 9.80 in a 74 duster that weighted 2900# with me in the seat.
2900# total weight
.030 over 440 with TRW forged dome pistons
Stock rods (direct conection bolts, shot peened, polished beems)
stock forged crank
750 comp cams roller cam
Weiand tunnelram with two 750 holley carbs (76 jets summer-78 jets fall)
4:56 rear gear
727 trans
14-31-15 goodyears
superstock springs (001-002)
Pretty simple build but with the parts available now its crazy not to use a set of h-beem rods and an after market crank. Or you could go with a 4.150 crank and really blow those small blocks away.
10.80's with a 416 CI. Heck the kids (whiskyrunner)duster weights 3300# went 10.83 two weeks ago. .030 over 360 with a stock crank and thru the exhaust. Same engine ran 10.20's last year at 2500# on 93 octane. With a 520 lift solid cam.
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i cant wait to meet this 1967dartgt guy
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why not smallblock?
I thought about it but I already have the 440 and the fenderwell exit headers.
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i'm guessing that 420 is at the back tire,not flywheel hp.
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why not smallblock?
Because small blocks are for girls and old people.
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Is this about 440 builds or smallblock vs bigblock ? Ron
The Small block guys always have to throw in their and ruin everyones fun. Read the thread title and move on, just like I do when I see a small block under the hood of a Mopar.
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Kinda like when I see a big block at the track that slow I laugh and walk on by!!
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Is this about 440 builds or smallblock vs bigblock ? Ron
The Small block guys always have to throw in their and ruin everyones fun. Read the thread title and move on, just like I do when I see a small block under the hood of a Mopar.
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Kinda like when I see a big block at the track that slow I laugh and walk on by!!
for every slow BB mopar there's 10 SB. Lets see a mighty 340 (stock stroke heck I'll even give you 418) w/ iron heads run 10's in a 3600-4000 b-body. For every one SB I'll show you 10 BB. Oh wait NOOOBODY would run a 340 base motor in a B-body
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What crazy people try to race a 4000 lbs car? Why?
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My 70 Dart
440 pulled out of a recycling place for $50 that's right $50
mp .590 cam
516 heads 2.14-1.81 and some mild porting
4.56 gears 30-9-15 M/T
3800 coan
Holley 750 street HP
wt 3000#
but only a 11.37 and fighting for traction a fuzz under 117mph This was at TNT on this combo a lot left in it.
How low do you really think thCR was? Ive been chastized for wanting
To run the 590 at 11.0cr!
pistons so far in the hole I get an echo when i yelled into it LOL.
Quote:because some people think 500ci 12 sec car is fast..just sayin
What crazy people try to race a 4000 lbs car? Why?
Quote:mr yuck,i have nothing against bb,but for u to dismiss sb's is a joke..i love when i spank a big tire,bb,gutted car..and if that bb gutted tin can beats me,,so what i have pump gas sm blk! do u see the ironyQuote:
What crazy people try to race a 4000 lbs car? Why?
because anybody can make a light car go fast.
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What crazy people try to race a 4000 lbs car? Why?
because anybody can make a light car go fast.
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70' Duster....3270#'s race weight....
446 TRW slugs .060 in the hole....OOTB Eddys....Proform MB 750....M1.....Hooker 2" Super Comps....MP .509 hyd....HS 1.5 rockers....Coan 5200...Dana 4.56's
went 10.60's at 124 with a 1.40 60ft.
Probably a 3k pump gas motor...
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70' Duster....3270#'s race weight....
446 TRW slugs .060 in the hole....OOTB Eddys....Proform MB 750....M1.....Hooker 2" Super Comps....MP .509 hyd....HS 1.5 rockers....Coan 5200...Dana 4.56's
went 10.60's at 124 with a 1.40 60ft.
Probably a 3k pump gas motor...
Eric, did you buy most of this stuff used like the heads & HS rockers, If not, i don't see how you could have only 3K with 1400.00 heads, not so cheap rockers & 400.00 pistons not counting the other bolt-ons & cam/lifters/timing set/pushrods/bearings/rings/carb & all the machine work unless this was 20+ yrs. ago or you own a machine shop ., just saying, I did my 451 for 3600.00, but i only had 450.00 in the heads.
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70' Duster....3270#'s race weight....
446 TRW slugs .060 in the hole....OOTB Eddys....Proform MB 750....M1.....Hooker 2" Super Comps....MP .509 hyd....HS 1.5 rockers....Coan 5200...Dana 4.56's
went 10.60's at 124 with a 1.40 60ft.
Probably a 3k pump gas motor...
Eric, did you buy most of this stuff used like the heads & HS rockers, If not, i don't see how you could have only 3K with 1400.00 heads, not so cheap rockers & 400.00 pistons not counting the other bolt-ons & cam/lifters/timing set/pushrods/bearings/rings/carb & all the machine work unless this was 20+ yrs. ago or you own a machine shop ., just saying, I did my 451 for 3600.00, but i only had 450.00 in the heads.
I bought my re-freshed 440 here on moparts assembled and ready to fire for 3k... .030 440 11.19:1 ross pistons, H-beam rods, stock steel crank, Ported stage VI heads, new 588 comp solid roller, H/S 1.5's, fluidampr, 8 qt oil pan 1/2 pick-up and some extras...(not including the 6-pack) Deals are out there. Just had to drop the 6-pack on and paint it orange.
Thanks Gumbydammit.
Quote:Not 400 but, When I put my 383 together, my buddy offered to put it in his 67 cuda before my body work was done. With a 850hp spec convertor , terrible 60'(1.6x) it still ran out the top at 130 mph, at 10.60. it was still slippin at 6000 thru the traps..
what happened to hearing about stupid fast 400 combos?
Quote:Quote:Not 400 but, When I put my 383 together, my buddy offered to put it in his 67 cuda before my body work was done. With a 850hp spec convertor , terrible 60'(1.6x) it still ran out the top at 130 mph, at 10.60. it was still slippin at 6000 thru the traps..
what happened to hearing about stupid fast 400 combos?
Not stuupid fast, but sure lays down ez #s in an a body....
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Most of these small blocks, are really BIG blocks 440-10.7 comp--640 lift-stock 84cc elldy heads-10 inch3200 stall-3.55 gear=10.55----- 300 hp of spray= GRAB A LANE street driven daily.
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this might be the post that 67mprfan was talking about.
some nice 3.75 stroke combos.
https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...rue#Post3873455
Quote:sorry,, its only a lowly 383Quote:Quote:Not 400 but, When I put my 383 together, my buddy offered to put it in his 67 cuda before my body work was done. With a 850hp spec convertor , terrible 60'(1.6x) it still ran out the top at 130 mph, at 10.60. it was still slippin at 6000 thru the traps..
what happened to hearing about stupid fast 400 combos?
Not stuupid fast, but sure lays down ez #s in an a body....
lol what a typo...i obviously meant 440
that 400 you mentioned sounds like it ran hard! I was thinking of putting a 400 or 383 low deck in my a-body, but because i was on a super tight budget and already had the small block stuff (plus the clutch linkage to contend with headers and such) i figured id stay sb..sometimes i wish i had gone the B/RB route though...I dont care what anyone says, dollar for dollar you can go faster for less with the bigger motors imo
Quote:Quote:sorry,, its only a lowly 383Quote:Quote:Not 400 but, When I put my 383 together, my buddy offered to put it in his 67 cuda before my body work was done. With a 850hp spec convertor , terrible 60'(1.6x) it still ran out the top at 130 mph, at 10.60. it was still slippin at 6000 thru the traps..
what happened to hearing about stupid fast 400 combos?
Not stuupid fast, but sure lays down ez #s in an a body....
lol what a typo...i obviously meant 440
that 400 you mentioned sounds like it ran hard! I was thinking of putting a 400 or 383 low deck in my a-body, but because i was on a super tight budget and already had the small block stuff (plus the clutch linkage to contend with headers and such) i figured id stay sb..sometimes i wish i had gone the B/RB route though...I dont care what anyone says, dollar for dollar you can go faster for less with the bigger motors imo
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Most of these small blocks, are really BIG blocks 440-10.7 comp--640 lift-stock 84cc elldy heads-10 inch3200 stall-3.55 gear=10.55----- 300 hp of spray= GRAB A LANE street driven daily.
Bro your 440, your baby bottle and your 10.55 are to slow for my small block with no power adders