Originally Posted by DaveRS23
You do have to know something about what you are doing with EFI. And isn't that a real issue for most guys? We are 60 years or so in on our most popular carb platforms and most guys don't know a main jet from an air bleed. Or want to. Now along comes retrofit EFI. And it changes, but not necessarily solves the issues confronting the average car guy.

While some guys have good success with these systems, many don't. Here, in no particular order are my issues with the current crop of retrofit EFI:

EFI is much more expensive than the carbs they are trying to replace. Even if you add in the cost to have your off the shelf carb professionally tuned which would eliminate 90+% of EFI's purported advantages.



I have a spread sheet with the price I paid for every part I needed to put EFI on my 51. $1024.49. From fuel pump to air cleaners, it's a dual TBI setup all of it name brand stuff, it could have been cheaper if I ran off brand. It also includes a wide band O2 sensor, every connector and all the other sensors needed to run. When you include all the parts of a quality carb system, fuel pump to air cleaner, the costs are similar. Don't forget the wideband.

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Obsolescence that makes the system useless because you can't get proprietary parts. Besides the fact that if a component fails on the road, obsolete or not, you may not be able to access it.


There is exactly one proprietary part in the whole system, the ECU. Everything else is off the shelf OEM stuff.

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Today's retrofit EFI is still a wet manifold system that has all the issues of a carbureted induction system.


Only true if you are going throttle body injection, otherwise not true. A carb has those issues regardless. Not sure how this proves a point.

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Today's retro EFI is as obsolete as the carbs that they seek to replace. No auto manufacturer has used them for decades. And port EFI is not feasible for the vast majority of us. And even some of them end up in batch.


Not sure what version of EFI you are claiming to be obsolete here. The setup I am using can be TBI, batch fire or sequential injection. Not sure if it can do DI, but that's a bad choice regardless.

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EFI introduces a ton more of potential electrical issues. In fact, most of the complaints that I read about from retrofit EFI owners concerns electrical problems. And those problems can be nearly impossible to diagnose over the phone, even if minor. Especially when there is only limited tech support at best. And sometimes none at all.


If you are scared of electricity or ignorant of it then that's your issue not EFI's. It is only as good as the installer and as I said you do have to know what you are doing.

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And finally, a properly selected and properly tuned carburetor is easily the match for any of the self tuning EFI kits. Only when a well tuned EFI kit is compared to an out-of-the-box carb does the EFI show any improvement. And it has been proven time and again that the carb wins the horsepower wars.


There are a small handful of shops that can "properly tune" a carb and they are nowhere near me. A properly tuned EFI system is a match for a properly tuned carb system, anywhere you care to look at it. But if you are only comparing an out of the box EFI system to a tuned carb system does your claim come close to holding water and only until the EFI tunes itself. None of those ships can really compensate for distribution issues a wet manifold can induce, EFI doesn't have that issue unless it is TBI.

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Much like the EV situation, the current crop of EFI retro kits are not ready for prime time. Not really the best solution for most of us. Sure, there are guys and situations that have benefited from them. But, by and large they are not the best choice for most of us for our muscle cars.


You do like to conflate don't you? If your knowledge is decades out of date, so are your conclusions.