Don't get me wrong. Nothing happened between me and Gene. I knew him. Was setup by him at the Nats and at St Louis for years. Supplied him with E body cores when I could. Used his E body bumpers for years and one of his 71 Plymouth B body brows I was just impressed with the AMD bumpers. I haven't used your bumpers yet but hope to someday. Actually I think I bought his last set of Cuda bumpers before he sold you the molds.