A few other things to add- Some folks are looking at 13-15 years down the road and saying "Well, cars and trucks can change a lot in that time frame." However, the pace of change in the automotive universe is slowing. There are far fewer differences between my 2009 Ram, that I just sold, and the 2020 that I'm driving, than there were between a 1960 New Yorker, and a 1971. When I sold cars in the 90's, the Gen III Caravan/Voyager arrived in 1995, when the genre was 12 years old. The current Pacifica is now 14 years old, and largely unchanged. It sells alongside a Caravan that dates to 2005 or so. Every automaker has rigs that are long in the tooth, but still sell enough to warrant production.