Originally Posted by SV_MOPARS
I sold my 06 truck thinking i could buy a 2020 ram based on what i saw on the ole innerweb, boy was i wrong, cant buy the trucks for the price you see in the listings on cars.com or autotrader, according to the dealerships those sites set the prices for them, WHAT?!!!!!, what a friggn joke this has turned into, i have not bought a new vehicle in 14 years and things sure have changed and not for the good, it was bad enough then, im sure this is nothing new but for me it is, i could continue this rant with a couple thousand words on what has taken place, but i think i will avoid the long reads.


In 2017 I was shopping for a new Focus for my daughter. Cars.com had a ton of them starting at $9999. Almost all were very basic manual versions. A couple were the higher SE with automatics. One dealer about a mile from my house had one of the SE models. He did explain to me that the Cars.com price included all possible rebates which we did not qualify for all. But basically I paid a few hundred dollars more and bought it over the phone in about 10 minutes. It was $13k even out the door. Was very pleased with the deal and since have bought 2 more cars from the same salesman.

I also bought my 2016 Colorado off of Cars.com as a leftover in February 2017. The car was not local to me and took some haggling but I bought it for $22,800 out the door. Was happy with that transaction also.


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