Originally Posted by parksr5
Originally Posted by weedburner
Seems most in this thread haven't figured it out yet, doesn't have to be as hard or expensive as it may seem.

Under about 800hp, $900 can get you a flywheel/PP/disc that can get the job done. Just as quick if not quicker than an automatic, while being easier on trans/driveline parts. The key is adding a clutch hit controller, which enables you to match the hit of that clutch to the engine. You will then be able to dead hook the launch without bogging the engine, which is far more consistent than chasing track conditions for just the right amount of wheelspin. And you will be able do it with an 833.

If you want to know what a clutch hit controlled dead hook launch looks like, check out the heads-up pro-tree NMRA Coyote Stock class. Automatics and trans brakes are legal there, but you won't find any.

Grant


Unless something has changed, during the last NMRA event that I attended, (which was 3-4 years ago) I had a conversation with one of the Coyote Stock drivers specifically regarding the transmissions they run. The guy I spoke with indicated that most of them run a g-force, TKO or some type self built/concocted T5. I inquired on how long the service life is and he indicated that it's normally one weekend event, sometimes less. He also indicated that there was one auto running that weekend but, it was about 2 tenths off the pace.

To be competitive in the class, I understand the need to run a stick but, for a bracket car, I could not see changing the transmission after every event and rebuilding the one that came out of the car (I think most of these guys have more than one). I have two friends that run at these same events in another class and run similar times as the Coyote Stock guys. One has a c4 and the other, a c5. They normally run their transmissions for 5-7 years before a rebuild. For the masses, is it that much more fun for the work and money that's required? For some, maybe but, not for me. This is coming from a former "Don't have a clutch, then you don't have much" or "real men drive cars with 3 pedals" type of guy. Not anymore, give me a C4, 727 or T400 any day.

FYI- I still have 2 stick cars.


In 2015, the only Coyote Stock racer using the ClutchTamer was Jacob Lamb. He's the guy who installed a factory "HOOD" release handle on the 'tamer and flew under the radar for a while. At the time, it was common for the typical CS racer to have the transmission/clutch out of the car several times during an event and broken transmissions were common. Jacob never broke another T5 after the 'Tamer was installed, and ended up season champ.

In 2016, Coyote Stock racer Carlos Sobrino also started using the 'tamer and began setting sealed engine records. The 'tamer reduced his need for clutch maintenance to the point where there was little need to pull the transmission during an event. At that point other racers started to notice, but broken transmissions had been so common in the class that NMRA amended the rules to allow the DR4 and G101A.

Fast forward to the 2017 season, by August there were around CS 10 racers that were using the 'tamer. Everything was going smooth and 'tamer customers were winning almost all the races, until a couple Black Magic sponsored racers complained to NMRA that some racers were using the 'tamer which they thought was cheating. There were some meetings, then on Sept 12 NMRA posted a rules clarification that effectively made the tamer illegal. When those 'tamer users got wind of the change, there was a Coyote Stock mutiny with many threatening to quit. The change meant the 'tamer users, who by now many had gotten their own clutch sponsors, would likely have go back to using the special Black Magic counterweighted pressure plate. The 'tamer saved them a lot of money and work, and they did not want to go back to the high maintenance program of pulling the trans several times a weekend for clutch maintenance. On Sept 13 NMRA had an emergency meeting to address the issue, and the amendment was re-written to specifically allow use of an un-modified ClutchTamer. I should mention that I have never been to an NMRA race, and have never even been face to face with any of the NMRA racers or officials. I don't sponsor anyone in the class, nor do I offer any contingencies. Those guys use my 'tamer only because it makes them more consistent and saves them money.

Grant