& I am a Google afficionado (not sure why it didn't cross my mind to Google it!) Thank you, I will play it. EDIT bro that was beautiful, you do each one seperately (duh!) My mind is still on shaft systems. & there was some info there that I didn't think of like aligning the plates. Thank you again! MORE EDIT Wait a minute, after I do each one I will still be turning the eng over to do the next one so I am right back where I started at when I posted unless I absolutely have to get each pair to base circle one at a time & got no choice OR if the 4 or 8 position chart will work for this. OR I can put some more goop on the lobes when I am done.