I am not looking for a cheaper lifter just looking for good options in case I cannot get what I want at the time I need them, when I bought the Cranes back 6 or so years ago I was under the understanding that the ultra-pro series was a very good lifter at the time and I was looking for pushrod oiling also so thats the ones that I selected, I later found out that the set I aquired was the last known new set in existance, (this was back when crane was having difficulties and wasn't producing alot of stuff anymore)so I almost didn't get them,what would I of setteled for? who knows,,,and those lifter's were over $700.00 at that time,,this 400 block WILL get the lifter bores bushed also, for all the reason's I did my small block plus the factory bores are way oversize by .003 to .005 and out of round, it probably looked like a sprinkler in the valley, so what I am doing is researching to find a selection I can work from, for a lifter that I can rely on and don't have to loose any sleep over, $350.00 lifters won't cut it with me and $1000.00 lifters are just not in the budget either,,Great thread guy's lot's of good info as always.