You no 383man i'm in the process re-doing the halio in my car and decided that i was going to elimate the tach in my car and just go with one of these http://www.jegs.com/i/Auto-Meter/105/5350/10002/-1?parentProductId=760208 but sense i'm elimateing the stock cluster the 5" tach fits nicely were the speedeo ga. goes so i'll put it there.Cause i also shift by ear