Quite a numbers of years ago I was in the market for a hood and front bumper for my car and talked to them at NTR during what I think was the Mopar Nationals ( too many years ago ) and was told all the usual things people do to promote their bussiness,,after walking away a gentleman came up to me and asked if I was interested in their products, and I said yes,,,then he went into a long conversation about why not to waste my time and money,,after asking around back then I decided not to do bussiness with them and found another company and the rest is history with a lot of bad storys from thier customers since that time, so it's an ongoing thing with them.