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PRO SYSTEMS 1000 HP (4150 CARB) #993386
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Please state your opinions on this carb! When I was getting my GTX dyno-tuned at Jake's Automotive last year, around this time,we tried one off of Len's '63' Plymouth race engine...for S&G's With a WAY RICH A/F ratio of 7:1..it equaled the best horsepower output of the modified 850 Holley that I was running! I would imagine if it was set-up for my engine..and the A/F ratio was a "friendlier" 12:1 or so..the power output would have increased by a good margin! What do you guys think? Thanks in advance!

Re: PRO SYSTEMS 1000 HP (4150 CARB) [Re: Labratt] #993387
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Patrick built one for Me,ran 9.20s in a sb 408,they have metering blocks set up like a Dominator,ran it for 3 years before moving up to a 110mm SV1,ran great for Me,hard to cast judgement on a carb built for someone elses program.jetting probly required maybe.
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Re: PRO SYSTEMS 1000 HP (4150 CARB) [Re: jb15] #993388
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I have one of Patrick's 1000HP's, First on my ~600HP 508 and now on my ~700HP 517, I'm VERY HAPPY with my choice. This carb will likely be seeing double duty on my new 414" small block, at least for the short term!

7:1 , Better clean off those plugs, buddy!!

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Re: PRO SYSTEMS 1000 HP (4150 CARB) [Re: Labratt] #993389
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i had one of patricks 1000hp's on my 408,ran real good with a best of 10.60@127. on the same day i switched to by Bigs 950 stage 5 plus and ran two back to back 10.55@128's, so my 408 liked the 950 better. same 60's (1.59) with either carb. this was on pump gas and 3350#.

Re: PRO SYSTEMS 1000 HP (4150 CARB) [Re: mopar dave] #993390
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Thanks Guys! Does anyone know what these carbs ACTUALLY flow? I know the 950's supposedly ONLY flow 860-880cfm!

Re: PRO SYSTEMS 1000 HP (4150 CARB) [Re: Labratt] #993391
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We sent Patrick our Holley 950 HP and he worked it over and got it to flow 1040cfm. We have had great luck with the carb but have nothing to compare it to as at the time we changed a few other parts that also increased our hp output. It is very consistent and has pushed the Duster to a best et of 9.46 and a best mph of 144!

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Re: PRO SYSTEMS 1000 HP (4150 CARB) [Re: cl440] #993392
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my 1000hp flowed 982 according to patrick.

Re: PRO SYSTEMS 1000 HP (4150 CARB) [Re: mopar dave] #993393
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Thank You for the info,Dave!

Re: PRO SYSTEMS 1000 HP (4150 CARB) [Re: Labratt] #993394
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Randy,
Patrick does great carbs.
i did back to back one of his 1000hp carbs against my BG 825 on my satellite.there was like only 0.0001 difference - essentially nothing.
i also tried a ultra HP950 later,different meeting against the BG and lost 3/10 and 3MPH.
this is on a 0.055 over 440.
your result may vary

Tex


New best ET 10.259@129.65 .
New best MPH 130.32
Finally fitted a solid cam,
stepped it up a bit more
3690lbs through the mufflers
New World block 3780lbs 10.278@130.80 . Wowser 10.253@130.24 footbraking from 1500rpm
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Re: PRO SYSTEMS 1000 HP (4150 CARB) [Re: tex013] #993395
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He did the carb on the Belvedere,,,,,


Re: PRO SYSTEMS 1000 HP (4150 CARB) [Re: 69CHARGERMD] #993396
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Dougie..what carb are you running? Isn't it a 1050 Dominator? Sounds like a LOT of people recommend Patrick..and his carbs!

Re: PRO SYSTEMS 1000 HP (4150 CARB) [Re: Labratt] #993397
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You get a dyno sheet with every one of Patrick's carbs.

There is also a number on the carb, so if you call tech they can help you get it right.

And Patrick answers the phone alot of times.


Chris..

Re: PRO SYSTEMS 1000 HP (4150 CARB) [Re: Chris'sBarracuda] #993398
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Thanks for the info,Chris! I'm REALLY leaning toward getting one of his 1000HP's in the future! I still have a lot more research to do,though! BTW..LOVE the graphics on your Barracuda!

Re: PRO SYSTEMS 1000 HP (4150 CARB) [Re: Chris'sBarracuda] #993399
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You get a dyno sheet with every one of Patrick's carbs.



Ive NEVER seen a ProSystems come with a DYNO sheet, but they do come with a SPEC sheet and suggestions for jetting ranges.

Re: PRO SYSTEMS 1000 HP (4150 CARB) [Re: tex013] #993400
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Patrick does great carbs.
i did back to back one of his 1000hp carbs against my BG 825 on my satellite.there was like only 0.0001 difference - essentially nothing.
i also tried a ultra HP950 later,different meeting against the BG and lost 3/10 and 3MPH.




So "Patrick does great carbs" but a smaller BG ran exactly the same as a bigger ProSystems?

Re: PRO SYSTEMS 1000 HP (4150 CARB) [Re: PorkyPig] #993401
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Porky..I was scratching my head..and wondering the same thing!!! Does that fact make the BG 825 a "superior" carburetor???

Re: PRO SYSTEMS 1000 HP (4150 CARB) [Re: Labratt] #993402
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Randy, Patrick is a straight up stand up guy and very good at what he does.

Alot of the fast cars run them. If they were junk they would not run them. NASCAR, NHRA Pro-Stock, Pro-Mod's, 10.5 cars on N2O, tractor pulling, boats all run his carbs.

that in itself should tell you how good they are.

Re: PRO SYSTEMS 1000 HP (4150 CARB) [Re: Labratt] #993403
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Thanks Guys! Does anyone know what these carbs ACTUALLY flow? I know the 950's supposedly ONLY flow 860-880cfm!




IIRC, my Pro System's 950 flows 967 CFM on my bench. (dry)

Re: PRO SYSTEMS 1000 HP (4150 CARB) [Re: mopartony] #993404
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i have one of prosystems E85 dominators,havent tried it yet,but i bought it knowing that stockholms and probably swedens fastest streetcar has one and it was very close out of the box.

Re: PRO SYSTEMS 1000 HP (4150 CARB) [Re: 1Fast340] #993405
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well i hope its better then the sv1 that i saw lose 2mph and 2 10th's on barry's nasty challenger

Re: PRO SYSTEMS 1000 HP (4150 CARB) [Re: PorkyPig] #993406
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Porkypig,
i'll expand .a couple of mates run prosystems carbs and they run great.
i borrowed my mates unused one,set up for 410ci sb,and it didn't help my motor.i contacted Patrick prior to using it and he suggested it may be a lttle too big.my take on this is the carb size on my motor is not a restriction.
i tried the various carbs because when looking to step up my program,some carb shops suggested a 950hp type carb.
the prosystems carb felt great and had good responce no mistake,just no improvement over the BG on my package in its current form.
as people say - your results may vary

Tex


New best ET 10.259@129.65 .
New best MPH 130.32
Finally fitted a solid cam,
stepped it up a bit more
3690lbs through the mufflers
New World block 3780lbs 10.278@130.80 . Wowser 10.253@130.24 footbraking from 1500rpm
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Re: PRO SYSTEMS 1000 HP (4150 CARB) [Re: tex013] #993407
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Tex, I agree, sometimes 'big enough' is just better and going bigger just kills more initial torque without enough motor to pay you back in HP...seen it a hundred times.

GENERALLY....On a heavier vehicle, I find a slightly undersized carb is better and more consistent than an oversized carb, it's also more responsive to tuning for conditions.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjXcf95e6v0
Re: PRO SYSTEMS 1000 HP (4150 CARB) [Re: PorkyPig] #993408
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Quote:

Quote:

You get a dyno sheet with every one of Patrick's carbs.



Ive NEVER seen a ProSystems come with a DYNO sheet, but they do come with a SPEC sheet and suggestions for jetting ranges.





WHATEVER..

You get a F!@#$@@ sheet.... Who cares what it's called..



Chris..

Re: PRO SYSTEMS 1000 HP (4150 CARB) [Re: Chris'sBarracuda] #993409
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I ran an 8082 (2 circuit) dominator on mine for a while and it ran very well. Have you tried one of those yet? They are a lot less $$ and I bet you would like it. For what its worth I have a 950 from bigs and I am very happy with it, works great and Jesse is a good dude to deal with, I am sure Patrick is good also just never used one of his carbs.

Re: PRO SYSTEMS 1000 HP (4150 CARB) [Re: Chris'sBarracuda] #993410
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After talking to a few people...I'm starting to think a 1000HP might be too much carb for my engine! More research in the near future! Thanks,Mates! Think I'll go have a Foster's .....and do some more carb pondering!

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Re: PRO SYSTEMS 1000 HP (4150 CARB) [Re: Labratt] #993411
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Randy, I would look into these carbs, I've heard he is one of the best in the business.

http://www.chucknuytten.com/

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Re: PRO SYSTEMS 1000 HP (4150 CARB) [Re: Streetwize] #993412
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When you say a heavier car, what weights are you speaking of?

Re: PRO SYSTEMS 1000 HP (4150 CARB) [Re: Labratt] #993413
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Fosters ?!
you feeling like puking ?
noone in Aus drinks that swill

Tex


New best ET 10.259@129.65 .
New best MPH 130.32
Finally fitted a solid cam,
stepped it up a bit more
3690lbs through the mufflers
New World block 3780lbs 10.278@130.80 . Wowser 10.253@130.24 footbraking from 1500rpm
Power by Tex's Automotive
Re: PRO SYSTEMS 1000 HP (4150 CARB) [Re: tex013] #993414
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i disagree,foster's is a good beer. just don't drink too many. i once drank 8 of those and it took a month to get over that hangover. i'll never forget that one.

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