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Re: New cam zinc oil?
[Re: Junky]
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02/22/11 12:53 PM
02/22/11 12:53 PM
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Holland MI Ottawa
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Often I read people suggesting one to
"just" run a roller valvetrain but roller components are soo expensive. Id love to be able to buy all the stuff but it comes out like so: $300 for a cam- $300 for lifters- $300-$400 for adj Rocker arms ($80 for BETTER adjusters) and around $90 for pushrods. In the past (good ole days?) a hot street hyd flat tappet cam was affordable and only required additional valvesprings. I hate the posts about wiped out cam lobes.
Keep old mopars alive.
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Re: New cam zinc oil?
[Re: indytex96]
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02/22/11 08:50 PM
02/22/11 08:50 PM
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Lincoln Nebraska
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Brad Penn breakin oil.Black moly paste on teh lobes/lifter bottoms (only). Do follow all the std preps ahead of time including making sure the lifters have enough clearance to rotate properly. On mockup, lifter body/bores cleaned & lightly oiled w WD40, lift each lifter off of it's lobe w your finger & let it go & it must fall back onto the lobe w a resounding "thunk" from it's own weight & if not you are too tight. For the ring breakin part read "breakin secrets" at www.mototuneusa.com (5 minute read)
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Re: New cam zinc oil?
[Re: GO_Fish]
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02/22/11 08:50 PM
02/22/11 08:50 PM
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Greer, SC
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I've used oil from here with new flat tappet cams and had no problems: http://full-synthetic.com/Of course you would not want to use full synthetic if it's a fresh motor with new rings. The owner of the company is Ed Evans. Give him a call I'm sure he can suggest something. Ed's number 815-739-5588
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Re: New cam zinc oil?
[Re: indytex96]
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02/22/11 10:03 PM
02/22/11 10:03 PM
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Maryland
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I'd definitely use the thinner 30 weight, especially if you are doing the break in during cold weather. The rings will need plenty of oil during that first start up.
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Re: New cam zinc oil?
[Re: indytex96]
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02/22/11 11:26 PM
02/22/11 11:26 PM
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Kirkland, Washington
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Any certain type of diesel oil that you guys recommend?
I am a fan of diesel oils (bought mega amounts at work) and I agree they are great oils---except--they have very high detergent levels. Not a problem in itself except that the oil tends to drain off in 'rivers' as opposed to clinging in a film. Picture that on a cam, thats been sitting for weeks.
I used to use them but for that reason I switched to regular oil plus ZDDPlus, but the next oil change I will just buy Redline's additive.
More than one way to skin a cat on this issue, and they probably all work pretty good. Obviously the higher the lift and the higher the spring pressure the greater concern.
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Re: New cam zinc oil?
[Re: GO_Fish]
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02/23/11 02:11 PM
02/23/11 02:11 PM
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Wherever I am.
Junky
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I installed a Hughes cam 2 months ago. 15W40 Valvoline Premium Blue heavy duty diesel (dino) oil with Redline zinc additive. After break in I drained and put the same oil and zinc additive back in with a new filter. Everything is just fine.
I don't want to jinx you, but 2 months ago in the winter probably means you don't have enough miles on your fresh build to know if the cam is safe or not. I hope you are right!
It wasn't a fresh build, just a cam swap.
So far I have about 400 miles on the cam. Been driving it every chance I get. Have had my foot in it many times, up to 6k. I've been running it hard to either break the cam in good, or break the cam.  I want to have at least 1,000 miles on it by the time cruise season gets here in June.
Hope it's good for many thousands of miles to come!
I was very meticulous checking the lifter rotation and everything else. Cam lift is 0.518.
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Re: New cam zinc oil?
[Re: 2boltmain]
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02/23/11 02:31 PM
02/23/11 02:31 PM
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Florida STAYcation
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Quote:
Often I read people suggesting one to
"just" run a roller valvetrain but roller components are soo expensive. Id love to be able to buy all the stuff but it comes out like so: $300 for a cam- $300 for lifters- $300-$400 for adj Rocker arms ($80 for BETTER adjusters) and around $90 for pushrods. In the past (good ole days?) a hot street hyd flat tappet cam was affordable and only required additional valvesprings. I hate the posts about wiped out cam lobes.
THEN there are the reports on the roller lifters or rockers COMING APART and then (potentially)trashing the whole motor.
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