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Bronze bushing for distributor........ #925591
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We just replaced the bronze bushing that goes into the engine block (small block Mopar) for the distributor, what size does it need to be reamed out to? The distributor shaft is .490 in diameter, I'm assuming a 1/2" would be fine? What do you think? Thanks

Re: Bronze bushing for distributor........ [Re: dustergirl340] #925592
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These don't generally get reamed AND .010 would be too much clearance in a bushing anyway. Ideally they get installed with a special tool that seems to expand the bushing in the hole. However, any I've ever installed in a big block by pulling them in from the bottom never needed any fitting for the shaft afterwards.

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My comment won't answer your question but will tell the story of how the bushing was/is meant to be 'burnished' after installation. Back in the day the dealers had a special tool that did the job. Once burnished the bushing not only fit the dist shaft but it fit tightly to the block.

If reamed to fit the dist shaft the bushing could eventually spin in the block. AND this did happen often.

Re: Bronze bushing for distributor........ [Re: dustergirl340] #925594
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We just replaced the bronze bushing that goes into the engine block (small block Mopar) for the distributor, what size does it need to be reamed out to? The distributor shaft is .490 in diameter, I'm assuming a 1/2" would be fine? What do you think? Thanks




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You want it tighter than .010" I just checked mine here that has been run and I have maybe .003"
I'd be looking for .015-.003 on the side cleance.

I pressed the gear off this oil pump shaft and have used it when I drove a new bushing in. Stick the shaft in the new bushing and drive it in with a deep socket and extension. Then use a old screw driver chucked in a drill and spin it up. I do use a washer under it, just didn't have one handy for the picture.

So I would advise trying a stock shaft to ream it because it has a real nice taper built into it.



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Great...thanks Gary!

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The installation/burnishing tool is available from Mancini and/or Sumit now. As posted, without the tool you risk a loose fit in the block and/or incorrect clearance between bushing and shaft.

I had a "near miss" on a BB bushing installed by a mostly Chevy shop w/o the tool. The bushing was loose in the block and almost spinning and shaft clearance was too tight and the shaft damaged. A new bushing, new shaft and the correct tool borrowed from a friendly Dodge dealer fixed it.

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I took a well used dist shaft and using a grinder, I made a groove lengthwise in the shaft.
It only took a few turns and the groove cut the excess material out and it was a perfect fit.
Cost was free

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The installation tool.

Make sure you install the bushing on the tool as shown before driving it into the block. The bushing is burnished when you pull the tool through bushing.

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The installation tool.




And worth every penny that it costs....

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Re: Bronze bushing for distributor........ [Re: sthemi] #925600
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I took a well used dist shaft and made a groove lengthwise in the shaft. It only took a few turns and the groove cut the excess material out and it was a perfect fit.


Someone (on here) did the same w a cam to fit cam bearings and reported it worked perfect & best way they'd ever found. I'll get the (pictured) tool if necc but if the slot will do it nicely I'm game


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Re: Bronze bushing for distributor........ [Re: RapidRobert] #925601
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I have installed at least 5 or 6 of those bushings over the years and don't remember having any problems doing it. I don't know what the big deal is with the tool?

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I have installed at least 5 or 6 of those bushings over the years and don't remember having any problems doing it. I don't know what the big deal is with the tool?





Ive put in 5 of them over the years without a tool. No problems.


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Some aftermarket bushings don't require sizing.


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Re: Bronze bushing for distributor........ [Re: Von] #925604
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I have installed at least 5 or 6 of those bushings over the years and don't remember having any problems doing it. I don't know what the big deal is with the tool?





Ive put in 5 of them over the years without a tool. No problems.




Same here...

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fwiw, my experience has been that the mp 1s are tight, but the pioneer brand 1s i've used don't need purnished. dave

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fwiw, my experience has been that the mp 1s are tight, but the pioneer brand 1s i've used don't need purnished. dave




This has been my experience as well. I've been told you can use an old oil pump drive to drive the tight ones in and then knocking it out burnishes it enough to allow the shaft to spin. A light polish on the shaft will help gain the clearance you would need if it's tight.

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Anyone see a prob w epoxying the OD of the bushing b 4 you drive it in, more security


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Re: Bronze bushing for distributor........ [Re: RapidRobert] #925608
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Still...The best and proper way is to use the tool to burnish the bushing and seat it to the block. Those here that say differently may be correct as well but I feel that you do it the right way the first time and you eliminate any future problems that might crop up...

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fwiw, my experience has been that the mp 1s are tight, but the pioneer brand 1s i've used don't need purnished. dave




This has been my experience as well. I've been told you can use an old oil pump drive to drive the tight ones in and then knocking it out burnishes it enough to allow the shaft to spin. A light polish on the shaft will help gain the clearance you would need if it's tight.




That's what I said, and have done. Nobody had to tell me, I figured it out on my own, like 20 years ago when I was 20 or 30.

Re: Bronze bushing for distributor........ [Re: RapidRobert] #925610
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Anyone see a prob w epoxying the OD of the bushing b 4 you drive it in, more security


Let us know how it works. No need to over think something as simple as installing the bushing.

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