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Door Mechanism Attaching Bolts - Removal #921080
02/04/11 04:17 PM
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Hello All,

Just stripping down the doors on my Charger, removing the trim, door handles, etc. My Phillips screwdriver doesn't seem to be doing the job on the 3 bolts (screws) that hold the door mechanism in place, I also have a socket attachment that seems to shallow to get proper grip, I really don't want to round them and then have to drill them out or something. Any ideas? Borrowed a pic from the web. ~ Alan.


Re: Door Mechanism Attaching Bolts - Removal [Re: CDN72SE] #921081
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Use a impact screwdriver if there real tight but sometimes you can smack the end of the screwdriver with a hammer to loosen them.

Re: Door Mechanism Attaching Bolts - Removal [Re: CDN72SE] #921082
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You have to have an impact screw driver. You hit it with a hammer and it turns the screw little by little.


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Re: Door Mechanism Attaching Bolts - Removal [Re: CDN72SE] #921083
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Hello All,

Just stripping down the doors on my Charger, removing the trim, door handles, etc. My Phillips screwdriver doesn't seem to be doing the job on the 3 bolts (screws) that hold the door mechanism in place, I also have a socket attachment that seems to shallow to get proper grip, I really don't want to round them and then have to drill them out or something. Any ideas? Borrowed a pic from the web. ~ Alan.


Those screws that you show don't have the correct under head shape. They should be countersink or beveled under the head. Whack the screw driver with a hammer as said and then use the correct size screw driver, if you have too attach vise grips to the screw driver for more leverage.

logan426

Re: Door Mechanism Attaching Bolts - Removal [Re: MOPARMIKE69] #921084
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I use my large Snap-on screwdriver which has a six point end near the handle and I put my box end wrench to turn it.


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Re: Door Mechanism Attaching Bolts - Removal [Re: MOPARMIKE69] #921085
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Thank you guys for the responses I wouldn't have known that. I've basically used only the tools in my small toolbox to strip down my entire car.

Re: Door Mechanism Attaching Bolts - Removal [Re: CDN72SE] #921086
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You may need a Posi-drive screw driver bit. If the screws have small hash marks in the cross of the slots it's posi-drive. A phillips screw driver will strip out the head of the screw.

Re: Door Mechanism Attaching Bolts - Removal [Re: MLR426] #921087
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Hello All,

Just stripping down the doors on my Charger, removing the trim, door handles, etc. My Phillips screwdriver doesn't seem to be doing the job on the 3 bolts (screws) that hold the door mechanism in place, I also have a socket attachment that seems to shallow to get proper grip, I really don't want to round them and then have to drill them out or something. Any ideas? Borrowed a pic from the web. ~ Alan.


Those screws that you show don't have the correct under head shape. They should be countersink or beveled under the head. Whack the screw driver with a hammer as said and then use the correct size screw driver, if you have too attach vise grips to the screw driver for more leverage.

logan426




Thanks Logan, I borrowed the crew pic from Jim's Auto Parts site.

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Re: Door Mechanism Attaching Bolts - Removal [Re: CDN72SE] #921088
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I use a big phillips head.Put it in then give it a smack with a hammer while turning it.It takes a large one.The impact driver works great too.Just sometimes I dont have it here.Rocky


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Re: Door Mechanism Attaching Bolts - Removal [Re: 1972challenger] #921089
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You may need a Posi-drive screw driver bit. If the screws have small hash marks in the cross of the slots it's posi-drive. A phillips screw driver will strip out the head of the screw.




I had to google what that was, lol. I'll have to give that a try as well, thanks.

Re: Door Mechanism Attaching Bolts - Removal [Re: therocks] #921090
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Thanks for the input therocks.

Re: Door Mechanism Attaching Bolts - Removal [Re: MOPARMIKE69] #921091
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You have to have an impact screw driver. You hit it with a hammer and it turns the screw little by little.





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Re: Door Mechanism Attaching Bolts - Removal [Re: Keith Black®] #921092
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As I said the impact driver is probally best.The big thing is most people dont have a really big phillips.They try to use a small one.I have 2 real big ones.One Craftsman thats probally 30 years old and a SnapOn.Ive removed quite a few with just them.I like the Snapon best because it has a hex head that a wrench fits on.Rocky


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Re: Door Mechanism Attaching Bolts - Removal [Re: therocks] #921093
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Thanks again, I'll post my results after I pick up the impact driver.

Re: Door Mechanism Attaching Bolts - Removal [Re: CDN72SE] #921094
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does anyone have a source for replacement screws for this application?

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Just be careful when using the driver and a hammer as you can actually bend the door jamb. (Don't ask me how I know)

Re: Door Mechanism Attaching Bolts - Removal [Re: CDN72SE] #921096
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Thanks again, I'll post my results after I pick up the impact driver.




I have just used a proper size phillips and a channel lock pliers, many times and never had one I couldn't get out. Don't see a need for hammer impact. The large size phillips is included in the basic tool kits. It has to be in good shape and not a cheap one though.

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I use the proper size phillips in a socket wrench. I am not sure it's a #4 or #3 or #2 but they sell them in sets.

I TAP it a little first to let it know I mean business then press hard and turn.

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I use the proper size phillips in a socket wrench. I am not sure it's a #4 or #3 or #2 but they sell them in sets.

I TAP it a little first to let it know I mean business then press hard and turn.




Yes I agree that is the best tool IMGTX.

Just a couple days ago I cleaned out my storage area above my garage. I found 2 old cardboard boxes that I stored door hardware in. I brought them down and looked em over and put em in a bucket.I kept every peice inside those doors rubber bumpers and all! I was surprised.

Stripped a very rusty red 73 challenger around 1985? I bought it and installed a 340 and drove it for a few years. Then it got too rusty to be safe and I stripped it of every bolt that I unscrew. Then cut up chunks of it each week with my torch and put it out for garbage man each week, A whole car!

Anyway I have ever bumper, guides, window hardware, everything in this bucket for 2 doors.

Like what was said above, those screws shown above are wrong.

Nothing is for sale so please don't PM me. Always happy to post pictures.


Here's the tool I like with a pair of channel locks. It's a #3 phillips.

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Re: Door Mechanism Attaching Bolts - Removal [Re: LimeliteAero] #921099
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does anyone have a source for replacement screws for this application?




as far as dead nuts on correct ? No

but very close is avail.

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