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Header modification???????? #916800
01/29/11 09:37 PM
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BROOK PARK, OH
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I love my headers.

I hate the fact that they designed them to hang so low under the car.

To that end they are real close to the ground....



Mostly it hasn't really been a problem other then going in and out of the trailer I have been raising the front of the trailer to get by and just barely.

My first thought was to cut and re weld them but the more I look at that there really isn't any good way to do it and keep everything aligned.

I seem to recall the the last time I brought this up someone saying to heat and bend them up.

Just wondering if that's really a viable option before I go and screw something up.

Re: Header modification???????? [Re: WILD BILL] #916801
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were you this much of a problem as a child.i'm thinkn you either have worse luck than me tryin to buy new parts or carma is after you.i can tell you if if you pull your car into your enclosed trailer on flat surface and evertthing clears,when you get to the track and pull into parking on the grass which is about 4 inches higher than the pavement the ramp sits on it will lower your 800.00 headers as soon as they catch on the ramp,makes all kinda wierd twists in the tubes.

Re: Header modification???????? [Re: WILD BILL] #916802
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Bill, how much can you move them vertically before
you hit frame or what ever

Re: Header modification???????? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #916803
01/29/11 10:12 PM
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notch the floor pan like they did in the "Sickfish" project & then you'll have loads of room to move your headers up. you car is race only?

Re: Header modification???????? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #916804
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IF I could go straight up I could go almost 2"s on the drivers side. The pass side is tight with the collector being close to the trans.

If I had a way to tweak the set to the out side some I could get about the same as the drivers.

At least I think anyway. Not sure I've looked from every possible angle

Re: Header modification???????? [Re: WILD BILL] #916805
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I was also thinking that maybe a set of A body fender wells might fit as I have no inner fenders.

Anyone ever done this?

OR

Anyone have a set laying around I could borrow to check fitment?

Re: Header modification???????? [Re: WILD BILL] #916806
01/29/11 11:59 PM
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you sure that new motor plate is in the right place?

Re: Header modification???????? [Re: Quicktree] #916807
01/30/11 12:09 AM
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Yes it is.

The headers had the same issues before the plate as they do now.

FWIW, I bolted the motor in with the factory mounts to "locate" it when welding the tabs for the plate.

Re: Header modification???????? [Re: WILD BILL] #916808
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Damn dude, better hope your new bullet doesn't cause massive wheelstands, lol

Re: Header modification???????? [Re: WILD BILL] #916809
01/30/11 12:33 AM
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Quote:

Yes it is.

The headers had the same issues before the plate as they do now.

FWIW, I bolted the motor in with the factory mounts to "locate" it when welding the tabs for the plate.





Bill, anyone have a B engine header you can try...
not a RB

Re: Header modification???????? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #916810
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Not that I know of.

My old Hooker SC's didn't hang this low but they wern't the adjustanle race headers either.

Re: Header modification???????? [Re: dustergirl340] #916811
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Quote:

Damn dude, better hope your new bullet doesn't cause massive wheelstands, lol





That would probably push em up enough

Re: Header modification???????? [Re: WILD BILL] #916812
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You ought to street drive with them that low like I do. Then you would learn to be very careful.
remember , how do you know when it's low enough, when it scrapes, how do you know when the tires are big enough,when they rub, how do you know when the cam is big enough, no such thing, just not enough motor.
Doug

Re: Header modification???????? [Re: WILD BILL] #916813
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I'm just thinking that a B header on a RB will
lift it up some

Re: Header modification???????? [Re: WILD BILL] #916814
01/30/11 01:28 AM
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I have used a floor jack and a piece of wood under the headers to raise them No cracking or unsightly damages to the pipes. On your car I would put it up on jackstands under the suspension so it sits like when it is on the ground and get after it, it will probally take four or five trys to get it to stay where you want it, go slowly and take your time, don't be afraid to put tension on the pipes when raising them up, it has to go by the spot under pressure you want them to end up at Oh Yeah, with your luck yours pipes will probally break off at the head flanges or it will rip the heads off of the motor Just kidding don't we love drag racing


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Re: Header modification???????? [Re: Cab_Burge] #916815
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Raff, they list the same header to fit both the B and RB

Cab, I had them jacked up to a position I was happy with but when I lowered the jack they came right back.

That's why I was thinking about heating them and then bending and letting it cool with the jack in place should hold the new shape.

Re: Header modification???????? [Re: WILD BILL] #916816
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You have the ability to buid your own.If not bring it here.Got a guy who does it but hates it and he owes me.
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Re: Header modification???????? [Re: WILD BILL] #916817
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Does not seem much lower then your oil pan inthe pic. What about trying a set of tti's?

Re: Header modification???????? [Re: Twin Turbo Mower] #916818
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Yeah, it's got a smallblock.
Re: Header modification???????? [Re: 340B5] #916819
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raise the eng and trans with modified mounts.
modify scoop.

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