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When a fellow racer whom I have raced with for years tells me that Pinky just handed him his cert sticker it is more than just he said she said, and he wasn't the only one. Don't tell me about Pinky, he grew up 20 miles from my home and a close friend of mine lived beside him and ran with him, so lets not go their. Actually this should not be about Pinky, but about NHRA- if you want to kiss their a// thats up to you! I consider them NHRA in the same class as the EPA, try to reason with those people!! Well its like trying to reason with NHRA. Feel better now HEMI JOE

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Not saying this is fact or not BUT if he certed a
guys chassis the last time(or even everytime) he
MAY have handed him the cert tag... if he knew the
car and owner and that the car hadnt been in a crash

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Did you know when you wreck, the NHRA tech guy cut's off all the tags off of every single peice of safety equipment so it all has to be sent back or replaced? Everything.
This is not a true statement for the wreck I had. I put my car on the roof (1/10/01) not one safty tag, including the chassis cert was removed. NOT ONE, even though the repair bill on the car was over $9,000.

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So you are upset, because your cage you bought from Jegs, would not pass the written spec. And that is somehow NHRAs fault and not Jegs................wow. Tubing is always measured in the bend, because, yes it stretches....but....if jegs had used something other than the cheapest crap they could get, it may have passed. The spec is .120 wall mild steel and can be no thinner, ANYWHERE. That is why most kits, made with cheaper ERW tubing are actually made from .134 wall. To make sure they pass the spec. The fact that it passed before, only means that inspector did not happen to measure it in a thin spot.

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KD800 wrote:
"HEY... Since NHRA is Non Profit, does that mean that you can write off your entry fees as a donation on your taxes? Maybe we should call the IRS and ask them."

Do you think Jeggie wrote off his entry fees?

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LOL... I'm sure he did, but was it filed under donation or advertisement?

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KD800 wrote:
"HEY... Since NHRA is Non Profit, does that mean that you can write off your entry fees as a donation on your taxes? Maybe we should call the IRS and ask them."

Do you think Jeggie wrote off his entry fees?

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LOL... I'm sure he did, but was it filed under donation or advertisement?

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KD800 wrote:
"HEY... Since NHRA is Non Profit, does that mean that you can write off your entry fees as a donation on your taxes? Maybe we should call the IRS and ask them."

Do you think Jeggie wrote off his entry fees?

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LOL... I'm sure he did, but was it filed under donation or advertisement?

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Too bad you guys don't even know what "wrote off" means.

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I didn't know we all need to be tax lawyers also.
I was joking! So lighten up Frances...

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KD800 wrote:
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Do you think Jeggie wrote off his entry fees?

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LOL... I'm sure he did, but was it filed under donation or advertisement?

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Too bad you guys don't even know what "wrote off" means.

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I feel stupid. I did it for seventeen years and now your telling me I didn't know what I did.

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I believe Monte and Chapper feel that we are only commenting about NHRA because of the blood in the water as they wish to call it, actually this subject about NHRA is long over due, you certainly can't express your opinions at the NHRA track or in the Dragster. As we all know NHRA runs this program with a Chicago Style Political Attitude, and they are always right! I have been aroung drag racing since the late 50's and early 60's I will admitt, I don't know it all, but I do know a lot. I'am not of the thinking that NHRA should go out of business, however they must get back to reality, and if they owe taxes then they should pay them, my opinion they should have been paying them for years, and the President of NHRA should not be making more $$ than the President of The United States! As for safety they are out of control, especialy on the seat belt issue, give us 4 years instead of the two years, but let the tech people check them for tears, dry rot ect. If the military only changes fight jets every 5 years, you can't convince me that this is not a money grab. Monte and Chapper called my comment on payoffs a conspiracy theory, its like Jesse says FOLLOW THE MONEY! I'am not stupid, I am a retired salesman after 45 years, I know how the system works, as an example, I called on GM-Ford_and Chrysler in Detroit. Never did GM, or Chrysler purchasing agents want a kick-back, however we were at Ford Motor Company going over a quote on $100,000.00 hydraulic press for their Brookpark, Ohio plant when their purchasing agent interupted the pruposal to let us know his TV wasn't working well and then he gave us his business card with his HOME ADDRESS on it so we could ship his a new TV. We did not do it and when I called him the following week to check on our quote he told me it went into the waste can! As another example I had a friend here in Ohio whose son was up on charges of stealing newspaper boxes, the DA came to their home the night before the trial and said if my friend would give him $10,000 in cash the case would go away and it would be over, my friend could not do it and his son went away for 2 years, so if you don't believe this stuff does not go on, then you have inhaled too many nitro fumes. Back to NHRA selective safety issues. Remember I believe it was last year when they interviewed Warren Johnson about the track being unsafe, and he said that they only care about Top Fuel and Funny Car, and when the Pro Stock Drivers said they would not race because the track was unsafe and in CHICAGO STYLE form Graham Light told them that two cars had altready gone down and if the rest of the guys would not go down then the class had its winner and runner-up and they call this safety. I use to be the guy who would break all the speeding laws so I could get home from racing so that I could watch an NHRA event on tv, but after the John Force/Robert Height deal last year it turned my stomach, it was best said by another Moparts Member awhile back, a 20 year John Force Fan lost in 5 seconds, even Mike Dunn was amazed at that deal, and I am so tired of watching one lane race tracks, and they wonder why the stands are only two-thirds full. I don't want NHRA to go away but I do want them to improve and for them constantly raising prices this sucks, I have been an NHRA member for ages, I would give it up tomorrow, however they have you by the short hairs, because to race at an NHRA track where you need a license, you must be a member, once again Chicago Style. As for the comment about Norwalk leaving IHRA to join NHRA, it was a business decision I would believe with better press coverage and exposure, it has always been a great facility, we race their and I really can't see the difference, great traction, great race surface, great people,great restrooms,the Bader Family are are the same Class Act as they were when it was IHRA and the ice cream is dam good. I would hope NHRA would feel most of our comments were constructive critism, my personal belief is, it won't faze them at all because they are ALWAYS RIGHT - REMEMBER CHICAGO STYLE. For their sake they should tell the TV cameras not to scan the stands so people at home won't see how empty they are, the same as NASCAR. I feel better now!

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Great post from another site, sums up my feelings exactly:

There's an old saying that "power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely". In my opinion the lack of accountability that management and the board have had for years plays in to that old saying. Management and the board are the same people and are not accountable to anyone. They do what they please, they pay themselves what they please with no concern with how it affects all of us. Most 501-C6 tax exempt organizations are accountable to their members. In fact according to IRS rules they must be membership based organizations with a high degree of membership involvement.

Look at the NFL, the members are the owners of the teams, the owners pick a board and hire the CEO, who is accountable to the team owners. SEMA is another good example of a 501-C6 organization. The members vote on board members who in turn hire a person to run the organization. The management is accountable to the board and the board is accountable to the members. The lack of accountability is what's led to the shape NHRA finds themselves in right now.

I think the NHRA is way beyond needing an overhaul of the management.

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WHERE is Kevin(NDragster) ....when he could use a DOSE of THIS clear-thinking ?