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So you are upset, because your cage you bought from Jegs, would not pass the written spec. And that is somehow NHRAs fault and not Jegs................wow. Tubing is always measured in the bend, because, yes it stretches....but....if jegs had used something other than the cheapest crap they could get, it may have passed. The spec is .120 wall mild steel and can be no thinner, ANYWHERE. That is why most kits, made with cheaper ERW tubing are actually made from .134 wall. To make sure they pass the spec. The fact that it passed before, only means that inspector did not happen to measure it in a thin spot.

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Well said Bob - hope this retirement deal is working well for you, it sure is for me, you will love it! Back to the issue, a lot of these strokers on here just are trying to pull our chain about this seat belt issue, and this real racer stuff, but the seat belt is just the tip of the ice berg. I can remember a few years back when you had to replace my roll cage because the NHRA rep "Pinky" rejected my current cage because he said the tubing thickness wasn't thick enough, although he measured it on the bends so as it would stretch it naturally got thinner, when I tried to explain to him that it was a Jegster roll bar kit, he chewed my ass and said "so you think just because you bought it at Jegs it is legal? - my reply to him was, I'am sure Jegs would not sell a cage that was illegal on purpose. It was advertised in their catalogue being NHRA/AHRA certified. He then failed me and went on too fail the two cars after me and he had already failed the two in front of me. He was pissed because he had to get up early on a Saturday and travel from Columbus to Thompson to do certification. By the way mine was a re-cert which had already passed previously and had passed IHRA cert. The real bad thing was once you fail you cannot run under I believe it is 11.99, so in CHICAGO STYLE-NHRA rules my 9 second car had to have a new cage installed and thanks to Bob George Racing I was able to run the following week. When I first started building this car approximately 14 years ago, I read two of the most important things about building a race car wasn't about getting it launched, but about getting the car safely stopped and buying the best seat belts available which you can quickly release and get out of the car. This was written by someone who had gone off the track and ended upside down in a lake. So when these clowns want to take us off the subject by talking about being cheap and buying $70.00 seat belts, they are either missing the point or don't really care. The Simpsons that I prefer are around $240.. - It's not only the belts, its the cage stuff and re-certs- trans dip stick -tranny shields - new drive shaft loops- only to name a few! I feel better now HEMI JOE

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FWIW Pinky AKA Don Cobbs RIP, was a very fair minded guy. I knew him well, he was only doing his job and your beef should have been with Jegs like Monte said.

He went out of his way for many guys, me included. I respected him for that and made racing at the div races enjoyable for me and many others.

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BG MrBob,It would be nice if you are some of the others could write us up a petition that we could print off and take to our local and any other tracks we go to and have the racers sign. You are 100 percent right,as long as we line up and pay its never going to stop.

We can try and jest about it,but it is a Real $$$$$$ Problem.

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FWIW Pinky AKA Don Cobbs RIP, was a very fair minded guy. I knew him well, he was only doing his job and your beef should have been with Jegs like Monte said.

He went out of his way for many guys, me included. I respected him for that and made racing at the div races enjoyable for me and many others.

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He certed mine I would guess like 6 years ago... was
nice to me... I remember he did the cert at the place
he worked at and all the employees were watching as
I unloaded and loaded back up after he was done...
that was a day or two before the Mopar Nats

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I can't tell you how many times Pinky was looking out for me. I have many stories that I don't have time for now. He was one of the good guys, to me anyway. He was a great guy for the NHRA and the little guys.

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BG MrBob,It would be nice if you are some of the others could write us up a petition that we could print off and take to our local and any other tracks we go to and have the racers sign. You are 100 percent right,as long as we line up and pay its never going to stop.

We can try and jest about it,but it is a Real $$$$$$ Problem.

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I doubt that the NHRA will bend to a petition if safety is an issue. It's all about liability and they could be liable if you race with out of spec parts and you get hurt. Their underwriters have a lot to say about what is and isn't acceptable. IMO the NHRA is the best game in town. If you want to play you have to play by their rules. I don't like spending money unnecessarily but I do what they tell me to do as far as safety equipment because I like what they bring. There are other options like has been pointed out a dozen times in this thread.

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Why not find a way to "make" an updated tag and sew it on? They make fake everything else in this world, why not?

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Well first you would take an existing tag and scan it. Bring it into Paint Brush or something similar to clean it up and also to change the dates for the future. Next you would need to find some similar paper cloth to print the new tags on. I would think most craft stores would carry something just about the same. And then print out the new tags.

In order to punch out the new dates in a similar fashion I would think 3/16” break line would be about the right size and also sharpen up the edges. Take care as to not punch the new dates out completely as I’ve notice that most have a hanging chad (insert Florida voting joke here!) thing happening. Sew it into the belt and done!

But that’s how I would envision someone making new tags for a belt!

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Why not find a way to "make" an updated tag and sew it on?

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Ok, so Pinky was great to some, I know of guys from Columbus that told me, he just handed them their cert sticker - that sure sounds fair to me. Remember safety is what we are talking about and law suits. To tell me that Jegs sells Junk is a poor answer and we are talking about protecting NHRA from law suits. RIP Pinky. I feel better now. Hemi Joe

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He said, she said don't mean anything to me. I want to hear first hand experience, not what you were told or heard from a friend.

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I wonder how many guys who are complaining about the cost of maintaining safety equipment have ever had a wreck where it saved there lives. I have, a hi speed wreck and luckly was not seriously hurt other than my pocket book.

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Yeah, I’ve been in a high speed wreck and my belts were technically expired (they somehow had updated tags for some reason ). Other than some marks on my chest from the belts digging in from the force of the impact I was fine. Car wasn’t of course.

Don’t remember the tech guy cutting off the tags. But that was almost a decade ago and tech guys are usually pretty lax anyway.

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I wonder how many guys who are complaining about the cost of maintaining safety equipment have ever had a wreck where it saved there lives. I have, a hi speed wreck and luckly was not seriously hurt other than my pocket book.

Did you know when you wreck, the NHRA tech guy cut's off all the tags off of every single peice of safety equipment so it all has to be sent back or replaced? Everything.

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And not a bar in the car was legal. Went over three times.

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I wonder how many guys who are complaining about the cost of maintaining safety equipment have ever had a wreck where it saved there lives. I have, a hi speed wreck and luckly was not seriously hurt other than my pocket book.

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Yeah, I’ve been in a high speed wreck and my belts were technically expired (they somehow had updated tags for some reason ). Other than some marks on my chest from the belts digging in from the force of the impact I was fine. Car wasn’t of course.

Don’t remember the tech guy cutting off the tags. But that was almost a decade ago and tech guys are usually pretty lax anyway.

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And I thought I was the only one who made a trip to the stationary store for an ink pad and a date stamp.