Re: K MEMBER
[Re: W9 Dart]
#888266
12/30/10 07:26 PM
12/30/10 07:26 PM
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Posts: 614 Michigan
Get-X
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Michigan
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Looks good Nice to hear it's been tested a bit. What does it cost?
'65 Belvedere '68 GTX '57 Dodge pickup
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Re: K MEMBER
[Re: W9 Dart]
#888267
12/30/10 11:40 PM
12/30/10 11:40 PM
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Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio
Sport440
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Tory, TShell, Stated, K Member, Check it out!!! He also stated he appreciates All the comments good or bad. Remember He said K Member Check it out!! Well, as requested after checking it out the best I can through pics only. Id say it looks pretty beefy. I like all the extra angles of reinforcement. In fact it may be more heavy duty then needed. This K Member actually looks more complicated to build then some of the others out there. On the Whole K frame from the pics, the only thing that jumps out at me is the steering arm/balljoint combo. It may be fine, but I cant tell how the steering arm is attached to the Ball joint portion of the tube. Is it welded to the End or does it run the Whole length?? This piece in particular has had strength problems in othe K frames here in the past. While the K frame itself looks plenty beefy, Im not to sure about this piece. "Let Vic Bloomer/SST340 show you some pics" Broken, from another unit. I think its fine to be inquisitive of a new product. Especially of a product as important as a K Frame that does so much with front steering geometry and control. Please excuse those who have experienced Nitemares and failures in the past with aftermarket K frames. Dont expect people too Swoon over a New piece, Allow them to be inquisitive and cautious. As I stated earlier, I appreciate All new products that someone is willing to take the time and expense to bring to the Mopar crowd. Bring it on! And Tory, Thanks for asking, Check it out!! mike
Last edited by Sport440; 12/30/10 11:43 PM.
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Re: K MEMBER
[Re: daron]
#888269
12/31/10 12:22 AM
12/31/10 12:22 AM
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Posts: 243 United States
W9 Dart
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cant wait to get mine [ hint hint hint] tshell lol
Right after me! lol
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Re: K MEMBER
[Re: wicked]
#888272
12/31/10 07:12 PM
12/31/10 07:12 PM
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Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 5,207 Menomonee Falls
DemonDust
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Have to agree on the ackerman issue, and to me just looks like alot of the welding is undercut. Ie: the plates welded to the control arms, the reinforcing tubes welded to the main crossmember
I wouldn't say undercut... Looks like not enough fill or should put in a smaller weld that doesn't burn the edge. At least from what I can see on the blurry pics...
Otherwise looks decent to me..
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Re: K MEMBER
[Re: DemonDust]
#888273
12/31/10 07:25 PM
12/31/10 07:25 PM
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Posts: 394 md
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Have to agree on the ackerman issue, and to me just looks like alot of the welding is undercut. Ie: the plates welded to the control arms, the reinforcing tubes welded to the main crossmember
I wouldn't say undercut... Looks like not enough fill or should put in a smaller weld that doesn't burn the edge. At least from what I can see on the blurry pics...
Otherwise looks decent to me..
Yes, more fill, appears he only has half the thickness of the material welded
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Re: K MEMBER
[Re: wicked]
#888274
01/01/11 01:22 AM
01/01/11 01:22 AM
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Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,552 Michigan
Kiddart
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COST????? anyone or website to go look at it better
Thank you Kiddart
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Re: K MEMBER
[Re: W9 Dart]
#888275
01/01/11 07:27 AM
01/01/11 07:27 AM
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Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio
Sport440
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W9/Jason, after further study, of pics 3,4,and 5., they show some serious weld weakness issues, IMO Focus on pic #5 This K Frame does have potential though. But not as shown, IF the pics are correct. mike
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Re: K MEMBER
[Re: Sport440]
#888276
01/01/11 07:38 AM
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moparniac
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does anyone have a link(video) that you guys talk about to bobs k member in action?
Mopar Performance
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Re: K MEMBER
[Re: moparniac]
#888282
01/01/11 12:54 PM
01/01/11 12:54 PM
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Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 5,207 Menomonee Falls
DemonDust
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you could say the same thing about bobs stuff makes a good product but the welding sucks
bobs kit has crap weld jobs?
I'd like to see this, I can't believe that statement is true.....
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Re: K MEMBER
[Re: DemonDust]
#888283
01/01/11 01:28 PM
01/01/11 01:28 PM
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Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI
MR_P_BODY
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you could say the same thing about bobs stuff makes a good product but the welding sucks
bobs kit has crap weld jobs?
I'd like to see this, I can't believe that statement is true.....
It isnt... I've seen Bobs welds
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Re: K MEMBER
[Re: wicked]
#888285
01/01/11 03:45 PM
01/01/11 03:45 PM
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Joined: May 2008
Posts: 1,131 Thigh-Gap Junction
@#$%&*!
New user name, Same old jerk!
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New user name, Same old jerk!
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 1,131
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... Yes, more fill, appears he only has half the thickness of the material welded
To be honest, that's the first thing I noticed from the close-up pictures but I didn't say anything. This is very common, I've seen it in aftermarket control arms, k-frames, and roll bars and cages. For structural components such as these the welds need to be engineered in material and geometry just like anything else. This simply means that the weld material and thickness need to be chosen to handle the loads and stresses they are, or might be, exposed to.
In these days of the internet you have to provide good (and pretty) pictures of your product to gain market acceptance. This need for prettiness hasn't necessarily been good for quality. I strongly encourage anyone thinking of making this kind of product to pick up a basic Mechanical Engineering text with a section on weld design and read that section until you understand it. I know, that's not gonna happen.
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