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Re: Hemi Oil Pump [Re: Keith Black®] #829828 11/05/10 06:34 PM 11/05/10 06:34 PM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 6,446 NJ-USA H HPMike master
HPMike master H Joined: May 2005 Posts: 6,446 NJ-USA	Quote: ]Is the standard hemi pump up to the job of supply very high output street engine...? yes

Re: Hemi Oil Pump [Re: HPMike] #829829 11/05/10 06:45 PM 11/05/10 06:45 PM
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,212 QLD Australia Keith Black® OP pro stock
Keith Black® OP pro stock Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,212 QLD Australia	Mike would you run it on your 1,500hp engine? Can i fit another cover for remote filter ? -------------------------------- Darren Beale Keith Black Racing Engines®

Re: Hemi Oil Pump [Re: Keith Black®] #829830 11/05/10 11:14 PM 11/05/10 11:14 PM
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,212 QLD Australia Keith Black® OP pro stock
Keith Black® OP pro stock Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,212 QLD Australia	Does anyone have a pic of an Indy pump & cover? -------------------------------- Darren Beale Keith Black Racing Engines®

Re: Hemi Oil Pump [Re: Keith Black®] #829831 11/06/10 06:21 PM 11/06/10 06:21 PM
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,212 QLD Australia Keith Black® OP pro stock
Keith Black® OP pro stock Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,212 QLD Australia	Andy I may have to get you to machine me a cover up..? -------------------------------- Darren Beale Keith Black Racing Engines®

Re: Hemi Oil Pump [Re: Keith Black®] #829832 11/06/10 09:50 PM 11/06/10 09:50 PM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,231 State of retirement 5 52savoy master
52savoy master 5 Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,231 State of retirement	Quote: .. AND .... ta da.. the pump cover doesn't fit! Does anyone make an oil pump cover: 1. external pick up, and 2. remote filer that will clear the engine mount.? Help please It will clear....you will have to grind about a 1/4" off the cover and if your using the rear port the motor mount bracket(webbing) will need to be almost completely removed. The isolator stud and nut might have to be shaved a bit too..

Re: Hemi Oil Pump [Re: 52savoy] #829833 11/07/10 12:26 AM 11/07/10 12:26 AM
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,212 QLD Australia Keith Black® OP pro stock
Keith Black® OP pro stock Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,212 QLD Australia	Fred, Have you got any pictures of a modified housing ? ...mount? where on the housing would I shave 1/4 in? would really appreciate anything, stuck with this problem at the moment! -------------------------------- Darren Beale Keith Black Racing Engines®

Re: Hemi Oil Pump [Re: Keith Black®] #829834 11/07/10 12:42 AM 11/07/10 12:42 AM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,675 Mt. Eden Ky. Hemi Allstate master
Hemi Allstate master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,675 Mt. Eden Ky.	would really appreciate anything, stuck with this problem at the moment! There might be some help in this link. https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=4759108&an=0&page=11 1996 Ram 1500 Sport 1968 road runner 1952 Sears Allstate licensed, pump gas, Hemi 5.98 @ 115.73 1.33 60 ft. The best is yet to come. Painless Performance / Street RODDER magazine Top 100 for 2019

Re: Hemi Oil Pump [Re: Hemi Allstate] #829835 11/07/10 01:41 AM 11/07/10 01:41 AM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,231 State of retirement 5 52savoy master
52savoy master 5 Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,231 State of retirement	that's good link.... I no longer have the modified pump cover and mount so I can't post any pics but Hemi Allstate's post should give you an idea.. let me change that..I do have the mount/isolator. I'll post a picture Sunday. notice the bracket corner cut off. I also cut the rubber isolator off below the bracket. The gusset was removed but I welded a partial back in after I quit using the Milodon pump...also notice the thin isolator nut. Last edited by 52savoy; 11/07/10 02:42 PM.

Re: Hemi Oil Pump [Re: 52savoy] #829836 11/07/10 02:44 PM 11/07/10 02:44 PM
Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 8 Linden, MI S scottsgretch member
scottsgretch member S Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 8 Linden, MI	I have the same problem with the milodon pump cover interferring with the motor mount on my aluminum hemi world block. About a 1/2-inch off. Already had the pump cover machined down on the rear by Tim Banning at FHO Hemi's in Ontario when he built me the motor for me. Thought that would take care of the problem but guess not! I don't know if the cover can be machined any further without hurting it. I can replace the rear plug with a flush plug which would help but not take care of it oompletely. Was also told i could use a factory hemi pump cover to take care of the problem but don't know if that would do it or not. I can't complete installing my motor until i get this figures out. BAH!!!! I'm trying to research this as best i can so I can find a soluton too. I've tried to attach PICS but they must be too big. Scott

Re: Hemi Oil Pump [Re: scottsgretch] #829837 11/07/10 04:57 PM 11/07/10 04:57 PM
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,212 QLD Australia Keith Black® OP pro stock
Keith Black® OP pro stock Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,212 QLD Australia	Quote: I have the same problem with the milodon pump cover interferring with the motor mount on my aluminum hemi world block. About a 1/2-inch off. Already had the pump cover machined down on the rear by Tim Banning at FHO Hemi's in Ontario when he built me the motor for me. Thought that would take care of the problem but guess not! I don't know if the cover can be machined any further without hurting it. I can replace the rear plug with a flush plug which would help but not take care of it oompletely. Was also told i could use a factory hemi pump cover to take care of the problem but don't know if that would do it or not. I can't complete installing my motor until i get this figures out. BAH!!!! I'm trying to research this as best i can so I can find a soluton too. I've tried to attach PICS but they must be too big. Scott Scott, I have the same set up as you. On first inspection it looked near impossible to get the Milodon cover to fit the pump, not surprised machining 1/2in is not enough. I'll take another look over the next day or so but need another cover (maybe an Indy cover?? need a pic). Hopefully Fred as a solution, let's wait and see his pictures.. (thanks in advance Fred) -------------------------------- Darren Beale Keith Black Racing Engines®

Re: Hemi Oil Pump [Re: AndyF] #829838 11/07/10 11:57 PM 11/07/10 11:57 PM
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,212 QLD Australia Keith Black® OP pro stock
Keith Black® OP pro stock Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,212 QLD Australia	Quote: That cover is one that I custom designed for my car. It wouldn't work for his application because I think he wants an external inlet on the cover. Andy I don't need any inlet on the cover. I only the 2x lines for an remote filter (feed + return)... do you reckon your cover would work.. or could we modify it more easily to work? -------------------------------- Darren Beale Keith Black Racing Engines®

Re: Hemi Oil Pump [Re: 52savoy] #829839 11/08/10 12:02 AM 11/08/10 12:02 AM
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,212 QLD Australia Keith Black® OP pro stock
Keith Black® OP pro stock Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,212 QLD Australia	Quote: ......bracket. The gusset was removed but I welded a partial back in after I quit using the Milodon pump...also notice the thin isolator nut. Fred, why did you quit using the Milodon pump? -------------------------------- Darren Beale Keith Black Racing Engines®

Re: Hemi Oil Pump [Re: Keith Black®] #829840 11/08/10 12:03 AM 11/08/10 12:03 AM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA B G Racing master
B G Racing master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA	Why not use a stock pump with a stock cover and a aftermarket spin on adapter for a remote filter lines.I have pick up a few from our local NAPA store for aprox $20.I probably have a few lying around the shop. [IMG]http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq21/ajcasini/max_zpsdppwd9km.jpg[/IMG]

Re: Hemi Oil Pump [Re: B G Racing] #829841 11/08/10 12:14 AM 11/08/10 12:14 AM
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,212 QLD Australia Keith Black® OP pro stock
Keith Black® OP pro stock Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,212 QLD Australia	Quote: Why not use a stock pump with a stock cover and a aftermarket spin on adapter for a remote filter lines.I have pick up a few from our local NAPA store for aprox $20.I probably have a few lying around the shop. Bob... I bought the Milodon pump assuming it would be a high quality piece, and as an insurance policy on the engine to some degree. I may be a bit misguided but I still have a niggling feeling about using a stock pump on a high dollar motor... are the stock pumps really that good? If so then it may be worth a go.??? -------------------------------- Darren Beale Keith Black Racing Engines®

Re: Hemi Oil Pump [Re: Keith Black®] #829842 11/08/10 12:34 AM 11/08/10 12:34 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 10,384 Upstate NY Bigcube I Live Here
Bigcube I Live Here Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 10,384 Upstate NY	Not a cheap option but the best wet sump available is the Titan pump. Can be set up for single inlet or dual inlet. Plumbed for a remote filter. Not sure the stock engine mounts would fly. Put an engine plate in and be done with it, good spot to mount the filter Titan pumps Jim

Re: Hemi Oil Pump [Re: Bigcube] #829843 11/08/10 12:46 AM 11/08/10 12:46 AM
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,212 QLD Australia Keith Black® OP pro stock
Keith Black® OP pro stock Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,212 QLD Australia	Without a doubt the Titan looks like the best. I have to stick with the engine mounts so the Titan is out. I am limited to pumps that fit with engine mounts, & that support remote filter. Ideally, I wanted to use the Milodon pump ... this however seems to be looking less and less likely. I will try to get a pump cover made that will work. -------------------------------- Darren Beale Keith Black Racing Engines®

Re: Hemi Oil Pump [Re: Keith Black®] #829844 11/08/10 01:42 AM 11/08/10 01:42 AM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,231 State of retirement 5 52savoy master
52savoy master 5 Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,231 State of retirement	Quote: Quote: ......bracket. The gusset was removed but I welded a partial back in after I quit using the Milodon pump...also notice the thin isolator nut. Fred, why did you quit using the Milodon pump? I retired the car and restored it. I forgot to mention....The pictured isolator is new and isn't the one I cut the corner off for clearance.

Re: Hemi Oil Pump [Re: Keith Black®] #829845 11/08/10 05:08 AM 11/08/10 05:08 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 193 Australia T Teamx member
Teamx member T Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 193 Australia	Darren, Can you use internal pickup with a deep pan, should be fine for a streeter although my block was tight with a 4.25 stroke! 6291070-clearance1.jpg (264 downloads)

Re: Hemi Oil Pump [Re: Teamx] #829846 11/08/10 05:11 AM 11/08/10 05:11 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 193 Australia T Teamx member
Teamx member T Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 193 Australia	another! 6291072-clearance2.jpg (223 downloads)

Re: Hemi Oil Pump [Re: Teamx] #829847 11/08/10 06:43 AM 11/08/10 06:43 AM
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,212 QLD Australia Keith Black® OP pro stock
Keith Black® OP pro stock Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,212 QLD Australia	thanks Tim, but the pickup is not the problem... its the depth/height of the pump including cover. If I had a cover that was shallow I may be able to get around it. I think I will have to get a cover made. Not sure what to do now -------------------------------- Darren Beale Keith Black Racing Engines®

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