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crt or a&a #803179 09/16/10 04:26 PM 09/16/10 04:26 PM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,012 indiana M mcmopars OP super stock
mcmopars OP super stock M Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,012 indiana	i know both are top line 727 builders.i want a street performance sb 727.cope wants 995.00 and a&a wants 1295.00.any comments? i know i will get a good tranny from either.i quess it a 300.00 doller guestion

Re: crt or a&a [Re: mcmopars] #803180 09/16/10 04:36 PM 09/16/10 04:36 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,542 BROOK PARK, OH WILD BILL Senior Member of the Junior Dragster Club
WILD BILL Senior Member of the Junior Dragster Club Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,542 BROOK PARK, OH	CRT hands down. John's one of the greatest guys I know

Re: crt or a&a [Re: WILD BILL] #803181 09/16/10 05:12 PM 09/16/10 05:12 PM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 84 NC B Badfish67 member
Badfish67 member B Joined: May 2005 Posts: 84 NC	CRT...John is the best to deal with. 1967 Barracuda 360ci/727 9.723ET @139.44mph

Re: crt or a&a [Re: WILD BILL] #803182 09/16/10 05:45 PM 09/16/10 05:45 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,285 Ohio 6 64dodge572 master
64dodge572 master 6 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,285 Ohio	I bet if you look at a breakdown of all the parts used, there is a reason A&A is $300 more. I wouldn't buy 727 parts from anyone other than Rick.

Re: crt or a&a [Re: 64dodge572] #803183 09/16/10 07:00 PM 09/16/10 07:00 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,179 Park Forest, IL slantzilla Too Many Posts
slantzilla Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,179 Park Forest, IL	Here's all you need to know right here. http://www.727specialist.com/index.html "Everybody funny, now you funny too."

Re: crt or a&a [Re: slantzilla] #803184 09/16/10 07:55 PM 09/16/10 07:55 PM
Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 570 Brea, Ca D Dart Racer mopar
Dart Racer mopar D Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 570 Brea, Ca	I can only give an opinion on CRT since he has been my sole source of transmissions to date (2). And the ONLY reason he had to build two is because I wanted a backup, just in case something happened; as California is too far for a "quick" repair or replacement. So far the backup has been a waste of money as my original trans that John built 5 years ago for my 493, 625HP Wedge is still performing flawlessly. And I still use the push-buttons. So based on his great service, and product I would highly recommend CRT. But here again I haven't used A&A.

Re: crt or a&a [Re: Dart Racer] #803185 09/16/10 11:21 PM 09/16/10 11:21 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,820 Connecticut FurryStump master
FurryStump master Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,820 Connecticut	CRT built mine. Can't go wrong with CRT best of 11.39 at 117 mph 1.60 60’. 68 340 S Barracuda Fastback F.A.S.T [IMG]http://i67.tinypic.com/2mnnnnt.jpg[/IMG]

Re: crt or a&a [Re: mcmopars] #803186 09/16/10 11:53 PM 09/16/10 11:53 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,431 Florida STAYcation BeEtLeJuIcE ! The village idiot's idiot
BeEtLeJuIcE ! The village idiot's idiot Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,431 Florida STAYcation	Quote: i know both are top line 727 builders.i want a street performance sb 727.cope wants 995.00 and a&a wants 1295.00.any comments? i know i will get a good tranny from either.i quess it a 300.00 doller guestion Just curious ...what is the "grocery list" of HP or aftermarket parts in these type transmissions .. other than regular OEM-type stuff ?

Re: crt or a&a [Re: BeEtLeJuIcE !] #803187 09/17/10 01:31 AM 09/17/10 01:31 AM
Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 333 So. Jersey Somerdale Flash enthusiast
Somerdale Flash enthusiast Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 333 So. Jersey	CRT... No one better to deal with than John Cope.

Re: crt or a&a [Re: mcmopars] #803188 09/17/10 05:53 AM 09/17/10 05:53 AM
Joined: May 2008 Posts: 5,399 Aurora, Colorado 451Mopar master
451Mopar master Joined: May 2008 Posts: 5,399 Aurora, Colorado	Never used A&A so I can't compare, but John at CRT has been great to deal with. p.s. John, I still owe you a valve body core

Re: crt or a&a [Re: 451Mopar] #803189 09/17/10 05:58 AM 09/17/10 05:58 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,647 aotearoa rebel master
rebel master Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,647 aotearoa	i have a lot of A&A parts in my trans, they're top quality looking parts when compared to the stock stuff we took out. their Ultimate brake with the safe neutral is a wicked piece, leaves almost all my competition for dead, the others red light against me.

Re: crt or a&a [Re: rebel] #803190 09/17/10 07:52 AM 09/17/10 07:52 AM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,012 indiana M mcmopars OP super stock
mcmopars OP super stock M Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,012 indiana	this isnt going to be a racing transmission,just a street performance.with shift kit.ive got a built small block tranny with mvb and i hate driving it on the street.its great at full throttle but just putting around the clashing and banging of the gears ive had enough.time for a tranny that will still bark the tires in 2nd but still shift smooth at light throttle.

Re: crt or a&a [Re: mcmopars] #803191 09/17/10 08:25 AM 09/17/10 08:25 AM
Joined: May 2006 Posts: 1,260 New Mexico A Adobedude pro stock
Adobedude pro stock A Joined: May 2006 Posts: 1,260 New Mexico	CRT built my 727 2001 Dodge Dakota 408 All Motor 11.27 @ 117.83 mph 2017 NM Mopar Challenge Series Champion.

Re: crt or a&a [Re: Adobedude] #803192 09/17/10 08:34 AM 09/17/10 08:34 AM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 411 Portersville, Pa 1badx mopar
1badx mopar Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 411 Portersville, Pa	I have used both CRT and A&A. Both supply good products. The deciding factor for me is this - 99% of the time I call CRT, John (the owner) answers the phone! He is friendly, informative and very helpful. I don't know how he is able to get work done answering the phone all day but that helpful(and time consuming) practice has won my business.

Re: crt or a&a [Re: mcmopars] #803193 09/17/10 08:38 AM 09/17/10 08:38 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,531 Jacksonville, FL Chris2581 master
Chris2581 master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,531 Jacksonville, FL	Quote: this isnt going to be a racing transmission,just a street performance.with shift kit.ive got a built small block tranny with mvb and i hate driving it on the street.its great at full throttle but just putting around the clashing and banging of the gears ive had enough.time for a tranny that will still bark the tires in 2nd but still shift smooth at light throttle. If the governor is still in the trans,why not just put in a stock valve body with a shift kit?? Nautilus Racing- We use Superformance gaskets and Turbo Action converters/products.

Re: crt or a&a [Re: BeEtLeJuIcE !] #803194 09/17/10 10:29 AM 09/17/10 10:29 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually B BradH Taking time off to work on my car
BradH Taking time off to work on my car B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually	Quote: Quote: i know both are top line 727 builders.i want a street performance sb 727.cope wants 995.00 and a&a wants 1295.00.any comments? i know i will get a good tranny from either.i quess it a 300.00 doller guestion Just curious ...what is the "grocery list" of HP or aftermarket parts in these type transmissions .. other than regular OEM-type stuff ? What I'd want to know is if the A&A trans includes parts and / or modifications that reflect that extra $300. I have some A&A parts in my 727 and they're top quality. But I've wondered in the past whether you pay a significant premium for that A&A name vs. dealing with someone else.

Re: crt or a&a [Re: mcmopars] #803195 09/17/10 10:45 AM 09/17/10 10:45 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 644 Owego, NY J JBurch mopar
JBurch mopar J Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 644 Owego, NY	MY , a tranny from CRT will be one of the best investments you'll make for your car. My 904 is 3 years old and doin' just great! Money well spent! Jim Burch

Re: crt or a&a [Re: JBurch] #803196 09/17/10 10:49 AM 09/17/10 10:49 AM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 154 Joplin, Missouri M Mac's Hemi 64 member
Mac's Hemi 64 member M Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 154 Joplin, Missouri	CRT all the way! Mine has worked flawlessly behind my mostly street sometimes race Hemi. Can't go wrong with John.

Re: crt or a&a [Re: Mac's Hemi 64] #803197 09/17/10 11:04 AM 09/17/10 11:04 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,855 Staten Island N.Y. Dap top fuel
Dap top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,855 Staten Island N.Y.	I bought my 727 from John at CRT and have bought parts from him also. Great guy to deal with.. PRH446 10.084 @ 135.21 mph N/A through chambered mufflers,3300lbs. Stock stroke wedge

Re: crt or a&a [Re: mcmopars] #803198 09/17/10 11:08 AM 09/17/10 11:08 AM
Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 12,339 somwhere S smokinwoody I Live Here
smokinwoody I Live Here S Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 12,339 somwhere	Quote: this isnt going to be a racing transmission,just a street performance.with shift kit.ive got a built small block tranny with mvb and i hate driving it on the street.its great at full throttle but just putting around the clashing and banging of the gears ive had enough.time for a tranny that will still bark the tires in 2nd but still shift smooth at light throttle. theres a lot of guys that rebuild MOPAR transmissions whether its racing or for street use...John Cope (CRT), built my race trans.. he stands behind what he builds and the products he sells...A$A are suppliers or should I say manufacturers (correct me if Im wrong) and build transmissions as well...CRT uses a lot of those parts plus he has a few that are manufactured for him... for me, as I have done business with CRT, thats whom I would go to and save yourself that $300.. tell you a little story: when I first met John, he showed me what was wrong with my 727 in about 5 minutes...he tore down my trans that quick and explained what each part does and what parts he will use to build me a better trans... He's a good honest man and knows his transmissions...

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