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rotissere paint job. do you paint the car all at once? #801984 09/15/10 12:25 PM 09/15/10 12:25 PM
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,349 warfordsburg, PA dirt OP pro stock
dirt OP pro stock Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,349 warfordsburg, PA	I have been using a rotissere to paint cars for a few years now and i was wondering how everyone else has used them. I have been painting everything at the same time in the past with the body all bolted together, engine comp, floor, door jambs , outside of body. and was thinking of doing it in pieces this time. may be the backs of the fenders and doors and hood before i bolt them on so that i can get more paint behind them and just doing the smaller parts like the mirrors splash pan and a few other parts seperate even a different day to make it easier but was a little worried about the paint matching. I am using a solid color this time with no metallic and it is base coat clearcoat. I normally wet sand the outside of the body ,clear it again then wet sand and buff. i was thinking of doing that to the engine compartment and door jambs this time also. just wondering if anyone else had a better way of doing the paint work when doing a complete paint job on a car that will probable see a lot of car shows. thanks

Re: rotissere paint job. do you paint the car all at once? [Re: dirt] #801985 09/15/10 12:33 PM 09/15/10 12:33 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,595 md M mopars4ever I Live Here
mopars4ever I Live Here M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,595 md	Man, your post is exactly what I wanted to ask. I`ll be anxiously waiting to hear what people here have to say. Color match would be my main concern too.

Re: rotissere paint job. do you paint the car all at once? [Re: mopars4ever] #801986 09/15/10 12:43 PM 09/15/10 12:43 PM
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dan9 super stock D Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 1,023 pa.	I usually paint the whole exterior at the same time. My current project is also a non-metalic and i will paint parts as i go along. It wouldn't hurt to record air pressure so it is constant but it won't vary if used from the same batch of paint. Metalics would be trickier though.

Re: rotissere paint job. do you paint the car all at once? [Re: dan9] #801987 09/15/10 12:53 PM 09/15/10 12:53 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,368 Iowa burdar Owen's Dad
burdar Owen's Dad Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,368 Iowa	My car was painted in sections. The inside of the trunk, engine compartment, and the whole under side was sprayed at the same time on the rotisserie. Then the car was put on a body cart where the main bodywork was done.(alignment of panels and all the filler work) The hood, doors, front/rear valences and trunk lid were taken off right before the color went on and were painted off the car.

Re: rotissere paint job. do you paint the car all at once? [Re: burdar] #801988 09/15/10 01:46 PM 09/15/10 01:46 PM
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moper I Live Here M Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,675 Columbia, CT	Quote: My car was painted in sections. The inside of the trunk, engine compartment, and the whole under side was sprayed at the same time on the rotisserie. Then the car was put on a body cart where the main bodywork was done.(alignment of panels and all the filler work) The hood, doors, front/rear valences and trunk lid were taken off right before the color went on and were painted off the car. As I learned, this is the normal high quality way of doing it. For me, I'd shoot the interior and underside, then assemble it on it on it's wheels, then block it, then remove the parts to paint and reassemble. The seams will move when it's supporting itself. If you really want beyond perfect, it should have the driveline in it too. Well, art is art, isn't it? Still, on the other hand, water is water! And east is east and west is west and if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does. Now, uh... Now you tell me what you know.

Re: rotissere paint job. do you paint the car all at once? [Re: dirt] #801989 09/15/10 01:54 PM 09/15/10 01:54 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 752 AZ - The "dry heat" state 71autoxr super stock
71autoxr super stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 752 AZ - The "dry heat" state	I have a dart convertible that only the jambs and inside/underside was sprayed on the rotisserie. I sprayed the backsides of the body panels (doors/fenders etc) off the car, removed the body from the rotisserie. Assembled the car, and will spray off the rotisserie. Metallic single stage acrylic urethane Q4 Medium turquoise metallic. 6197624-new.jpg (68 downloads) 68 AMX mopars red headed stepchild 69 Dart GT Convertible 340 4 speed 71 Challenger - looks like the avatar!

Re: rotissere paint job. do you paint the car all at once? [Re: 71autoxr] #801990 09/15/10 03:09 PM 09/15/10 03:09 PM
Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 12,481 Chino Valley RodStRace I Live Here
RodStRace I Live Here Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 12,481 Chino Valley	That seems to make the most sense on a single color resto type job. I'm going to do a van, and will probably do the thing in steps. Underside Inside except floor (mask floor) mask inside and do floor (using tinted bedliner) Mask off all painted areas and shoot jams and outside (different color). Since this doesn't have the gaps issues or the removable fenders, it's a bit different. Final call is the painter preference though, since they are responsible for the final outcome.

Re: rotissere paint job. do you paint the car all at once? [Re: RodStRace] #801991 09/15/10 05:28 PM 09/15/10 05:28 PM
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fury4speed mopar F Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 660	You should paint all parts together for best results , if the car is metallic then it is a must , and all parts should be in line and the way they sit while bolted to the car , no exeptions for best results.

Re: rotissere paint job. do you paint the car all at once? [Re: dirt] #801992 09/15/10 05:57 PM 09/15/10 05:57 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,142 Tucson, AZ C cruzin super stock
cruzin super stock C Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,142 Tucson, AZ	dirt, Just curious. When you have painted with the fenders, hood, trunk, brackets and latches in place and you need to readjust, how or what is done to minimize the cracking or chipping when you break loose those painted nuts and bolts? Do you then spot paint those areas or simply touch them up with brush?

Re: rotissere paint job. do you paint the car all at once? [Re: cruzin] #801993 09/15/10 06:37 PM 09/15/10 06:37 PM
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,365 So Cal GoManGo70Bee super street
GoManGo70Bee super street Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,365 So Cal	Quote: dirt, Just curious. When you have painted with the fenders, hood, trunk, brackets and latches in place and you need to readjust, how or what is done to minimize the cracking or chipping when you break loose those painted nuts and bolts? Do you then spot paint those areas or simply touch them up with brush? Yes, I was wondering the same thing???? 70 Superbee 383 4 speed 70 Hurst 300 67 Dart sedan 74 Ramcharger 03 Hemi Ram 1500 4X4

Re: rotissere paint job. do you paint the car all at once? [Re: GoManGo70Bee] #801994 09/15/10 09:56 PM 09/15/10 09:56 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,592 None 71rm23 master
71rm23 master Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,592 None	Quote: Quote: dirt, Just curious. When you have painted with the fenders, hood, trunk, brackets and latches in place and you need to readjust, how or what is done to minimize the cracking or chipping when you break loose those painted nuts and bolts? Do you then spot paint those areas or simply touch them up with brush? Yes, I was wondering the same thing???? Ditto here. I would imagine for instance the engine compartment goes somethig on this order: Paint the engine compartment with the fenders and hood off. Install the fenders and hood then align everything up and checki the gaps. Then mask off the area from fender to fender. Paint the fenders and hood with bolts in pace? I'm not a body guy but wanted to have a hand in doing this kind of stuff to my car with the help of someone who is a body guy. I myself, would want to have my hand in restoring my car instead of just forking out $$$ to have someone else do it all. I dont mine paying a shop as long as a deal can be worked out that I can help in the restoration of it. Hope that makes sense..lol

Re: rotissere paint job. do you paint the car all at once? [Re: cruzin] #801995 09/15/10 10:56 PM 09/15/10 10:56 PM
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dirt OP pro stock Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,349 warfordsburg, PA	i just use a few bolts and let the washers off, to hold on the fenders on to paint . then swap in the right ones, one at a time so the fender dosent move. The washers cover up any marks left from the bolts that didnt have the washers on them. Do the hood and trunk lik the same way.

Re: rotissere paint job. do you paint the car all at once? [Re: dirt] #801996 09/15/10 11:26 PM 09/15/10 11:26 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,592 None 71rm23 master
71rm23 master Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,592 None	Quote: i just use a few bolts and let the washers off, to hold on the fenders on to paint . then swap in the right ones, one at a time so the fender dosent move. The washers cover up any marks left from the bolts that didnt have the washers on them. Do the hood and trunk lik the same way. Will there be any markings on the bolts? I mean, if you do it this way, the bolts are painted seperately, right? If so, then when you install the right bolts, will there be a chance of the paint coming off from installing them after? I'm not doubting how you do it Dirt but thats why I'm asking questions. No harm intended.

Re: rotissere paint job. do you paint the car all at once? [Re: RodStRace] #801997 09/15/10 11:51 PM 09/15/10 11:51 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	It depends on what your goals are. If you want a 100% authentic factory style paint job you'll do it with the car all bolted together with the gaps and panel alignement already set. The bolts got painted right along with everything else, doing it any other way is a bandaid.

Re: rotissere paint job. do you paint the car all at once? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #801998 09/16/10 01:25 AM 09/16/10 01:25 AM
Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 770 Central Utah Mopargnome super stock
Mopargnome super stock Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 770 Central Utah	When I do a car I do the basecoat while the car is together then take it apart to clear it. I really, really hate tapelines in the jambs. I would also do the engine bay and interior seperate as long as there is a seam line to tape on.

Re: rotissere paint job. do you paint the car all at once? [Re: Mopargnome] #801999 09/16/10 02:23 PM 09/16/10 02:23 PM
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dirt OP pro stock Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,349 warfordsburg, PA	If i am painting a car and putting the bolts in later its because i am using stainless normally and its not a stock type resto, sometimes i use bolts painted a different color and have to touch them up after they are tightned up. on a stock resto type paint job i paint the bolts allready on the car like the factory did. i would spray some paint on the fender where the bolts go before i put the bolts in just so there is some paint under them then put in the bolts and paint everything and clear it. most of the stuff i paint is not factory so i paint it with the bolts out of the car and a lot of times use stainless bolts , then there is no paint to scuff on them when they get tightened and they look nice.

Re: rotissere paint job. do you paint the car all at once? [Re: dirt] #802000 09/16/10 09:10 PM 09/16/10 09:10 PM
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crlush pro stock C Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,322 Michigan	if you drill all the panels with 1/8 drill for lining them up after paint you shouldnt have any problems since its non metallic. nothing like trying to allign freshly painted panels and chipping them all over. I pinned the panels on my car and put all panels on in less than an hour with no problems.

Re: rotissere paint job. do you paint the car all at once? [Re: crlush] #802001 09/17/10 02:20 AM 09/17/10 02:20 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 752 AZ - The "dry heat" state 71autoxr super stock
71autoxr super stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 752 AZ - The "dry heat" state	I paint all the hardware off the car. I bead blast the hardware. Apply one coat of epoxy, and as little paint as I can. When installing, tighten the hardware as finger tight as it can get. Finish with a socket lined with masking tape, or tape around the bolt head, or both if it will fit. Once a panel is aligned, tighten only a few fasteners until you are sure it is right. Once you have it perfect tighten everything up. It is inevitable to get a chip or nick, but touch up is each and never noticeable since the paint is thin. 68 AMX mopars red headed stepchild 69 Dart GT Convertible 340 4 speed 71 Challenger - looks like the avatar!

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